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Hitler Had A Much Higher IQ Than Trump

By ohomen171 follow ohomen171   2020 Feb 15, 3:47am 538 views   22 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share    


#trumpiqWho was the smartest Nazi?

Paul Hosse, Post Graduate Certificate Change Leadership, Cornell University (2012)
Updated May 19, 2019
Actually, there were several Nazis who, despite the stereotype, were quite intelligent. Famed author, William Shirer said that, in his opinion, the most intelligent among Hitler’s inner circle was Dr. Joseph Goebbels. Certainly no one can doubt his genius when it came to propaganda. Shirer also said that Goebbels could discuss practically any topic with ease. Another individual who would concur was actress and producer Leni Riefenstahl.

Riefenstahl was no friend of Goebbels by any stretch, but in her autobiography, she spoke of Goebbels’ chilling ability to coldly size up any situation with absolute clarity. As for IQ, there aren’t any known records of Goebbels having taken an IQ test, but most academics estimated that it was somewhere in the low 140 range, which would put him in the top 1%.

As for Hitler, whom everyone seems to be most interested in, he was considered to be broadly versed (mostly through being self-taught), yet his depth of knowledge was rather shallow and somewhat spotty overall. He was also considered rather one dimensional in terms of his personality and his intellect, whereas someone like Napoleon was not only broadly versed, but also had the depth and was capable of discussing virtually any subject intelligently. Napoleon’s personality was also much more multi-dimensional when compared to Hitler’s. Still, Hitler was quite intelligent. His estimated IQ was somewhere in the 135 - 140 range.

Another individual who was considered quite intelligent was Hjalmar Schacht who oversaw the “Nazi Miracle”, although he never joined the Nazi party, as Hitler’s Minister of Economics. Prior to that, he served as the Currency Commissioner and President of the Reichsbank during the Weimar Republic days. A trained economist, Schacht was also well educated in medicine, languages, and political science (he was a co-founder of the German Democrat Party, who were Center-Left and committed to democracy). During his tenure, he led the “free market” contingent within the Nazi Government until his dismissal.

In 1945, during the Nuremberg Trials, a US Army psychologist by the name of Gustave M. Gilbert was permitted to interview the various defendants in order to access the personalities, motivation, and in the course of doing so, to administer an IQ test. Gilbert, who held the rank of First Lieutenant, had a Doctor in Psychology from Columbia University. As an aside, he was also the son of Jewish-Austrian parents.

Now, in the case of Hjalmar Schacht, his IQ score of 143, which was the highest among the prisoners. The next highest was Arthur Seyss-Inquart, who was part of the Reich General Government in Poland, and then later served as the Reich Commissioner of the Netherlands. His IQ, according to Dr. Gilbert, was 141. Next on the list was Herman Goering, with whom most everyone is familiar. The former WWI ace and head of the Luftwaffe, among other positions, had an IQ of 138. Tied with Goring, was Hitler’s head of the Kriegsmarine and heir to what was left of the Third Reich, Admiral Karl Doenitz with an IQ of 138.

Franz von Papen, the former Prussian aristocrat, officer, Weimar Chancellor, and subsequent Vice-Chancellor under Hitler, whose actions proved to be less intelligent than his IQ of 134 might indicate (he was the minister who told his conservative friends that he could control Hitler—-”We’ve hired him”). A cut above von Papen, but with the same IQ of 134, was Grand Admiral Erich Raeder, who was head of the Kriegsmarine until 1943.

Dr. Hans Frank, Hans Fritsche, and Baldur von Schirach all got the same IQ test results of 130. Frank was a Nazi jurist and Hitler’s personal lawyer. He was also part of the Reich General Government in Poland. Less known to most people was Hans Fritsche who was the Ministerial Director at the Reich Ministry of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda (the number two spot under Goebbels). Von Schirach was head of the National Youth Division (HJ and BDM) of the Nazi Party before becoming the Reich Governor of Vienna.

The next three individuals are a little surprising, especially according to Dr. Gilbert. Joachim von Ribbentrop, Hitler’s Foreign Minister and Field Marshal Wilhelm Keitel, Chief of Armed Forces High Command (OKH), had test results of 129 each, which surprised Gilbert. However, what most surprised Gilbert was the results of Albert Speer.

Speer, who was trained as an architect, became the Reich’s Chief Architect following the death of Paul Troost, and Chief of Construction. Speer created some of the most memorable designs of the era, including the spectacular “Cathedral of Lights” show at the 1933 Nuremberg Party Rally, the New Reich Chancellery, the Olympic Stadium, and renovated the Borsig Palace. He later became the Reich Minister of Armaments and War Production. Yet, despite all this, his IQ results were not especially impressive, with a 129 result. Gilbert later commented that he suspected Speer was distracted and didn’t take the test seriously, which in light of his education and accomplishments, is likely true.

As for the others who were tested, I will simply list their names and IQ scores below:

Field Marshall Alfred Jodl 127

Alfred Rosenberg 127

Constantin von Neurath 125

Walther Funk 124

Wilhelm Frick 124

Rudolf Hess 120

Fran Sauckel 118

Robert Ley 115 (estimated)

Ernst Kaltenbrunner 113

Julius Streicher 106

While there were no individuals in the “super genius” range, there were a few who would qualify as “genius” (140+) and “brilliant” or “near genius” (130+). Certainly, most were well above average ( an average IQ is considered to be around 100). If you would like to read more about the results of Dr. Gilbert’s work, I would suggest “The Nuremberg Interviews” by Leon Goldensohn. I suspect you’ll find it very interest
1   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostakovitch   ignore (52)   2020 Feb 15, 4:50am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Streicher shrieked his last SIEG! HEIL!s from the gallows, barking his salute until the noose tightened.

Trump would have loved that guy.
2   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostakovitch   ignore (52)   2020 Feb 15, 4:56am     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Any ripe squash has a higher IQ than Trump.
3   Tenpoundbass   ignore (14)   2020 Feb 15, 8:12am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Oliver you have already lost the debate.
Everyone knows Batman can't beat up Superman.
4   Fortwaynemobile   ignore (2)   2020 Feb 15, 8:39am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Only geniuses burn gays communists and Jews? Good to know.
6   rd6B   ignore (1)   2020 Feb 15, 9:07am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

ohomen171 says
Hitler Had A Much Higher IQ Than Trump

What are people at Cornell saying, should we elect Hitler instead of tRUMP?
7   VINCENT   ignore (0)   2020 Feb 15, 9:14am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Boy they let just about any crap get posted on PatNet these days.
8   Ceffer   ignore (5)   2020 Feb 15, 12:16pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

No extra points for psychopathy? Trump is retarded, demented, adderal addicted, impulsive, compulsive insane HITLER WANNABE, only so much worse because inferiority complex. Take the scientist majority who all panic over Global Warming, multiply it times three. Those are the numbers of psychiatrists who unanimously agree that TRUMP IS BONKERS!
9   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   ignore (7)   2020 Feb 15, 10:05pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I would have slit my wrists before I got 3 sentences into this post, so my response involves not having read said post:

It’s 95% hard work, 5% intelligence.
10   just_dregalicious   ignore (2)   2020 Feb 15, 10:21pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

VINCENT says
Boy they let just about any crap get posted on PatNet these days.


Some very old dude. Likes to post weirdo stories about himself.
11   NDrLoR   ignore (0)   2020 Feb 16, 7:42am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

just_dregalicious says
stories about himself.
Always
12   Tenpoundbass   ignore (14)   2020 Feb 16, 7:50am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

just_dregalicious says

Some very old dude. Likes to post weirdo stories about himself.


They aren't even consistent, his stories started out saying just a few years ago he was homeless, he met a drugged out homeless lady with lots of health issues.
Then subsequent posts, he's done more than Forest Gump with Elena by his side. Elena apparently made such a full recovery, She's sharper than the Democrats most brightest cunning evil corrupt litigator. Amy could stay home and send in Elena.
13   WookieMan   ignore (4)   2020 Feb 16, 8:00am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tenpoundbass says
just_dregalicious says

Some very old dude. Likes to post weirdo stories about himself.


They aren't even consistent, his stories started out saying just a few years ago he was homeless, he met a drugged out homeless lady with lots of health issues.
Then subsequent posts, he's done more than Forest Gump with Elena by his side. Elena apparently made such a full recovery, She's sharper than the Democrats most brightest cunning evil corrupt litigator. Amy could stay home and send in Elena.

Patrick might know, but I feel like it's a bit. Someone bored and looking to do some imaginative writing. The stories are all over the place in literal terms and physical terms. I get people travel, but these stories always start or end up in some far fetched place. Never responds either, at least that I recall. Hence why I think it's a writer or someone throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks. Honestly not a bad method to get ideas from, especially a place like this👍
14   porkchopexpress   ignore (0)   2020 Feb 16, 8:56am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

So Trump isn't Hitler after all.
15   Onvacation   ignore (6)   2020 Feb 16, 9:01am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

porkchopexpress says
So Trump isn't Hitler after all

Literally.
16   Fortwaynemobile   ignore (2)   2020 Feb 16, 9:01am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

To be fair neither one had an IQ test. So topic is pure trolling fun. Only smart people burn gays in the ovens, that’s the summary today.

porkchopexpress says
So Trump isn't Hitler after all.
17   porkchopexpress   ignore (0)   2020 Feb 16, 9:12am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Fortwaynemobile says
Only smart people burn gays in the ovens, that’s the summary today.

porkchopexpress says
So Trump isn't Hitler after all.
The Left should launch another investigation to see if Trump has done the same.
18   Booger   ignore (5)   2020 Feb 16, 2:23pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

We should invade France. If we can conquer it in less than 6 weeks, and we probably can, won't that mean that Trump is smarter than Hitler?
19   just_dregalicious   ignore (2)   2020 Feb 16, 10:18pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

While everyone is distracted by that we should pick up Greenland as well.
20   CBOEtrader   ignore (6)   2020 Feb 17, 1:48am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Melania is hotter than Eva, by a lot
21   HeadSet   ignore (3)   2020 Feb 17, 7:14am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Booger says
We should invade France. If we can conquer it in less than 6 weeks, and we probably can, won't that mean that Trump is smarter than Hitler?


We already conquered France in the mid 1940s. We decided we did not want it and gave it to De Gaulle.
22   NoCoupForYou   ignore (3)   2020 Feb 17, 7:49am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

ohomen171 says
Post Graduate Certificate Change Leadership


Now that's a Bullcrap credential if I ever saw one.

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