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Agree, but what did the Republican party of whomTrump has almost total control do to make this happen? Ok the USMCA is a minimal improvement over NAFTA, the Chinese phase one is quite unclear as to its results. And? I suppose if you consider fucking up the enviromental regs. to allow more extraction and pollution helps the working man. Yeah until they die from environmentally caused disease. He gave 28 billion mostly to rich farmers is that trickle up or down or just buying votes?

The signature issue and definitely most important economic program was the tax bill. And it was mostly trickle down, even Trump would say that, though not in those terms.
While the Dems use trickle down too though less, it is the fundamental idea that infoms Republican economic ideology.

GDP Growth, population growth, etc. does not automatically translate into improvement of standard of living or quality of living.

I still say illegal immigration is not encouraged, it's not a conspiracy.

You don't think that, for example, offering free healthcare for illegal immigrants or having sanctuary cities encourage illegal immigration?

Offshoring and illegal-immigrant labor is a form of tragedy of the commons. If only a single company does it, that company gets the benefits but they tiny downside is felt by everyone. If every company does it, then downside becomes enormous and completely outweighs the benefits. A tragedy-of-the-commons situation is something where government might have a useful role in either outlawing the situation or reworking the laws so that the beneficiaries of the bad behavior are the ones that feel the entire effect of the downside.

You don't think that, for example, offering free healthcare for illegal immigrants or having sanctuary cities encourage illegal immigration?

In my opinion it's off the charts retarded propaganda

sanctuary cities and health care for the poorest of the millions of illegal immigrants

Do those people need a path to citizenship or should we somehow send them back (whatever that means?) when they have spent decades building families and a foundation here ?

millions (YES MILLIONS) of illegals already here

I think health care policies and sanctuary cities exist in support of millions (YES MILLIONS) of illegals already here.

wealthy Democrats (and Republicans) enjoy having that cheap labor

But no effort is ever made for a bipartisan solution,

I think health care policies and sanctuary cities exist in support of millions (YES MILLIONS) of illegals already here. Do those people need a path to citizenship or should we somehow send them back (whatever that means?) when they have spent decades building families and a foundation here ?

retarded propaganda to suggest that sanctuary cities and health care for the poorest of the millions of illegal immigrants already here is in fact actually happening for the purpose of attracting more illegal immigrants

Anyone that says democrats of today are not 100% pro illegal are delusional, almost all of the democrats in house and senate have totally flipped on the issue over the last 20yrs.

e rank at the bottom of almost every stat even though we are taxed the most

Some estimate 40 million. It's utterly insane.

Have you know shame ?

That is the goal

So...no amnesty or path to citizenship.

Anyone that says democrats of today are not 100% pro illegal are delusional, almost all of the democrats in house and senate have totally flipped on the issue over the last 20yrs.

But it's a scumbag move on his part. And it's sort of a scumbag move on the part of the Trump supporters that pass on the lie that democrats don't care about border security, or for that matter that health care for the poor among those tens of millions is about attracting new illegal immigrants. Such utter bullshit. Have you know shame ?

So what do you propose ? Is it rounding up however many millions of people it is ? Sending them to Mexico ? Genocide for those inferiors ? What ?

For the left, that is a great plan. Remember, flooding the country with illegals is the goal.

Especially considering that any honest person knows that bipartisan support that has existed for massively increasing border security going back more than a decade.

you must understand that the health care and sanctuary are far more about those millions or tens of millions than it is about attracting new illegal immigrants.

RC2006 says

Anyone that says democrats of today are not 100% pro illegal are delusional, almost all of the democrats in house and senate have totally flipped on the issue over the last 20yrs.

Because that's the way the US Chamber of Commerce wants it!

The Democrats sold out, big time.

The real irony in Trump's presidency is that the corporate-owned Democrats who hate him so much were all taking bribes from businesses to drive down wages by importing illegals from Mexico ("Sanctuary!") and exporting jobs to China ("Free trade!").

Businesses thought that lower wages was all they needed to be more profitable.

marcus says

Especially considering that any honest person knows that bipartisan support that has existed for massively increasing border security going back more than a decade.

If there were they would pass laws in this direction.

Heraclitusstudent says

marcus says

Especially considering that any honest person knows that bipartisan support that has existed for massively increasing border security going back more than a decade.

If there were they would pass laws in this direction.

Approved funding.
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Are you really trying to imply that the funding for that staffing was approved by the Dem held house and Senate under President Obama?

Approved funding.

If they really wanted to capture illegal,

Heraclitusstudent says

marcus says

Especially considering that any honest person knows that bipartisan support that has existed for massively increasing border security going back more than a decade.

If there were they would pass laws in this direction.