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Pedo decriminalization is next: California HR 145

By NoCoupForYou follow NoCoupForYou   2020 Jan 30, 8:39am 1,065 views   53 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share    


And since Pedophilia has nothing to do with the LGBTQ movement, this is pure coincidence the sponsors are the LGBTQ caucus.



The current law has an age limit of 15 for discretion; this new law would remove ANY age limit. So a 22 year old gay man harassing a 13-year old is subject to the Judge's discrimination as to whether they need to register as a sex offender.

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1   Fortwaynemobile   ignore (3)   2020 Jan 30, 9:17am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

They seem to rule the state these days.

1 month to honor them. Laws protect them like they are more important than normal people. They can harass anyone they like in name of gender expression. Kids in schools are indoctrinated into that lgbt horseshit.

CA is a very stupid state lately.
2   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostakovitch   ignore (53)   2020 Jan 30, 9:19am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Your honor, I recognize the victim was 11 years old but WOW! he had the lithe WANTON! body of a 3 year old! WOW! You have to understand!
3   Automan Empire   ignore (2)   2020 Jan 30, 9:21am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Wherever you copy/pasted this from made up their own intent and even legislation number. The proposed measure corrects a conservative "zero tolerance" measure that removes a judge's discrimination from individual cases and imposes penalties without regard to the specifics of each case. This is the same draconian puritanism that gets people placed on sex offender registrries for needing to pee in the bushes beside the road.

SB 145 will address the state’s discriminatory practice of treating LGBTQ young people differently than their non-LGBTQ peers when engaging in voluntary sexual activity. Currently, for example, if an 18-year-old boy has voluntary sex with his 17-year-old girlfriend, he isn’t automatically required to register as a sex offender. But if an 18-year-old boy has voluntary sex with his 17-year-old boyfriend or an 18-year-old girl has voluntary sex with her 17-year-old girlfriend, they’re automatically required to register as sex offenders, no matter the circumstances. SB 145 only applies when a teenager age 14 or older has consensual sex with a partner who is within 10 years of age. Equality California is cosponsoring SB 145 along with Los Angeles County District Attorney Jackie Lacey.
4   Fortwaynemobile   ignore (3)   2020 Jan 30, 9:23am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Loser Liberals won’t do anything until lgbts rape their kids in middle school and get away with it.

To quote ceffer:

Darwin has to re-generate white people with appropriate survival instincts.
5   NoCoupForYou   ignore (4)   2020 Jan 30, 9:38am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Automan Empire says
Wherever you copy/pasted this from made up their own intent and even legislation number. The proposed measure corrects a conservative "zero tolerance" measure that removes a judge's discrimination from individual cases and imposes penalties without regard to the specifics of each case. This is the same draconian puritanism that gets people placed on sex offender registrries for needing to pee in the bushes beside the road.


The law is SB145, and amending it.

There is no mention of an age limit:
(2) Notwithstanding paragraph (1), a person convicted of a violation of subdivision (b) of Section 286, subdivision (b) of Section 287, or subdivision (h) or (i) of Section 289 shall not be required to register if, at the time of the offense, the person is not more than 10 years older than the minor, as measured from the minor’s date of birth to the person’s date of birth, and the conviction is the only one requiring the person to register. This paragraph does not preclude the court from requiring a person to register pursuant to Section 290.006.


https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billCompareClient.xhtml?bill_id=201920200SB145&showamends=false

The above text has amended in blue.

This LGBTQ site confirms:

Under California law, if an adult is convicted of consensual vaginal intercourse with a minor between 14 and 17 years old, and the adult is within 10 years of age of the minor, a judge is allowed to decide if the convicted person would be placed on the sex offender registry or not.

https://qvoicenews.com/2019/08/16/california-senate-bill-145-would-end-sentencing-discrimination/

So yes, under the new law, a 23 year old can anally penetrate a 14 year old and the judge can decide not to register them as a sex offender. It could be even younger if a Judge decides it covers the lewd act with a child statute that applies to those under 14.

Naturally, the LGBTQ+P movement gives the example of an 18 year old with a 17 year old because people would then be more sympathetic.
6   NoCoupForYou   ignore (4)   2020 Jan 30, 9:40am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Gaslighting on LGBTQ+P issues is a multi-decade process:



Remember it was "Keep your nose out of our bedroom!" now Homosexual and Transgender programming is being made mandatory in Classrooms.
7   Automan Empire   ignore (2)   2020 Jan 30, 10:26am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

NoCoupForYou says
There is no mention of an age limit:


That's because age limits are enshrined elsewhere within the code. This amendment ends the practice of treating same sex acts differently from hetero acts. Also you didn't seem to read down to 290.006 which you even quoted. The amendment doesn't prevent people from being required to register WHEN a judge determines it's appropriate, rather it takes away the automatic sentencing aspect.

Let me ask you this: How do you feel about gun laws written by people who personally hate guns?
8   NoCoupForYou   ignore (4)   2020 Jan 30, 10:33am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Automan Empire says


That's because age limits are enshrined elsewhere within the code. This amendment ends the practice of treating same sex acts differently from hetero acts. Also you didn't seem to read down to 290.006 which you even quoted. The amendment doesn't prevent people from being required to register WHEN a judge determines it's appropriate, rather it takes away the automatic sentencing aspect.

Let me ask you this: How do you feel about gun laws written by people who personally hate guns?


Any Judge that makes a 23-year old gay man register for anally assaulting a 15-year old register will be villified by the LBGTQ community, count on it.

Anal Sex is extremely dangerous to public health, beyond any moral questions. This is so well-established that challenging it is science denial.

Anal Sex is (far and away) Primary vector for HIV
http://www.lifesitenews.com/blog/why-hiv-syphilis-and-gonorrhea-are-rising-among-homosexuals

Ever heard of Art Bell? His teenage was raped in school by a substitute LGBTQ teacher and given AIDS.
9   Automan Empire   ignore (2)   2020 Jan 30, 11:25am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Conflating rape with consensual sex? You're worthless at discussing the topic. Fuck off out of here with your zero tolerance BS, how is this your position any different from treating biting a pop-tart into the shape of a gun the same as bringing an actual gun to school?
10   HeadSet   ignore (3)   2020 Jan 30, 11:29am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says
Your honor, I recognize the victim was 11 years old but WOW! he had the lithe WANTON! body of a 3 year old! WOW! You have to understand!


I know you are joking, but there is a Florida judge awhile back who threw out a case involving a 10 year old girl because the 10 year old was "acting sexy."
11   NoCoupForYou   ignore (4)   2020 Jan 30, 11:34am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Automan Empire says
Conflating rape with consensual sex? You're worthless at discussing the topic. Fuck off out of here with your zero tolerance BS, how is this your position any different from treating biting a pop-tart into the shape of a gun the same as bringing an actual gun to school?


The age of Consent in California is 18.

HeadSet says
I know you are joking, but there is a Florida judge awhile back who threw out a case involving a 10 year old girl because the 10 year old was "acting sexy."


Probably because Florida allows judicial discretion, which is what California will now do.

You can bet that any Judge who decides to mandate sex offender registry of a 22-year old gay man who harasses a 15-year old boy, the LGBTQ+P Lobby will demand his resignation or oppose his re-election, just like Feminists did to the judge who let that college student off with a year for digital penetration of a willing drunk mid 20s woman.

Let's remember that California decriminalized the knowing perp spreading HIV to an unknowing victim. The exact opposite of what Health & Safety requires and can only be described as pandering to the HIV & Gay Community.
https://www.redstate.com/streiff/2017/10/08/great-news.-california-makes-legal-knowingly-give-others-hivaids

Note that knowingly spreading TB is still fully criminalized in California.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tuberculosis-patient-tracked-down-in-california-arrested/
12   Ceffer   ignore (5)   2020 Jan 30, 1:44pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Inoculating presumptive gay children with HIV in bug fests is just a way to keep them from worrying about it in the future.
13   HeadSet   ignore (3)   2020 Jan 30, 1:54pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

@NoCoupForYou Sorry, accidentally hit "dislike" on your post. Should have let my hands warm up before clicking.
14   FortWayneIndiana   ignore (2)   2020 Jan 30, 2:56pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Automan Empire says
Conflating rape with consensual sex? You're worthless at discussing the topic. Fuck off out of here with your zero tolerance BS, how is this your position any different from treating biting a pop-tart into the shape of a gun the same as bringing an actual gun to school?


Are you gay? You defend those perverts really heavily. No one is conflating rape with consensual sex. A 12 year old CAN"T FUCKING GIVE YOU CONSENT, they are easily manipulated because they are clueless about everything in this world. You fucking tell them that cars drive on apple juice and they'll believe you at 12. Fucking idiocy on the left is ridiculous, and ridiculous distances they go to defend faggots.

Age of consent is legally 18 doofus!
15   NoCoupForYou   ignore (4)   2020 Jan 30, 3:07pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

HeadSet says
@NoCoupForYou Sorry, accidentally hit "dislike" on your post. Should have let my hands warm up before clicking.


All good, man.

FortWayneIndiana says
ridiculous distances they go to defend faggots.


This is the problem. Nobody gives a shit about guys in the gloryhole at the Blue Oyster.

It's the bending over backwards (or forwards) to the Gay Lobby. We went from tolerating Homosexuality to promoting it via Marcusian/Frankfurt School "Liberating Tolerance", which is promoting it and shielding it from the same criteria we apply to other situations, like TB and the Clap.

Deliberately and knowingly having intercourse when you have the clap to an unknowning person is also criminal in most states - and that's an easily curable disease with antibiotics.

But the LGBTQ+P lobby in California got a law passed where knowingly passing HIV - an incurable, life shortening, deadly disease - without consent or knowledge of a person is decriminalized.
16   rd6B   ignore (1)   2020 Jan 30, 3:13pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I'd like to believe @Automan Empire, but cynic in me says that @NoCoupForYou will be right
17   socal2   ignore (1)   2020 Jan 30, 3:22pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

NoCoupForYou says
But the LGBTQ+P lobby in California got a law passed where knowingly passing HIV - an incurable, life shortening, deadly disease - without consent or knowledge of a person is decriminalized.


This right here is unconscionable.

It blows my fucking mind how fucked up the Democrat party has become........at least here in California.
18   HeadSet   ignore (3)   2020 Jan 30, 3:44pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

But the LGBTQ+P lobby in California got a law passed where knowingly passing HIV - an incurable, life shortening, deadly disease - without consent or knowledge of a person is decriminalized.

Candidate "Mayor Pete" supports this decriminalization as well.
19   Automan Empire   ignore (2)   2020 Jan 30, 6:55pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

FortWayneIndiana says
Are you gay? You defend those perverts really heavily.


Straight but not narrow. I'm not willing to be silent while innocent people are scapegoated by bigots, especially when said bigotry is exploited to increase government power and overreach. So, just as I stood against conservatives on the Patriot Act's effects on our mutual liberties while they called me a terrorist, so I will stand against zero tolerance legislation that does the same even if it means being "accused" of being gay.

The legislation in question makes MANDATORY inclusion on sex offender registries equal under the law whether it concerns a hetero or gay couple. Just as I think a high school boy shouldn't be punished for "manufacturing child porn" because he took a selfie of his own dick and sent it to a friend, I don't think a same sex couple should be treated differently than a hetero couple where it concerns these "romeo and juliet" scenarios.

Most of what you are arguing is not specific to gay people. If you don't like the way age of consent laws and exceptions are written and handled currently, argue for new laws and standards across the board. If the standards applied and punishments meted out are the same whether hetero or homo, are you OK with them?

I've actually BEEN a step parent to numerous teens and dealt with pedos and perverts trying to prey upon them, it's not like I have no experience or skin in the game on the topic. I believe PARENTS should take a strong role in protecting their children. It's a matter of being unwilling to give the GOVERNMENT more blank checks on power because one is easily squicked out by the thought of gay people.
20   Fortwaynemobile   ignore (3)   2020 Jan 30, 7:25pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

That means gay.
Straight doesn’t come with an exception.

Automan Empire says
Straight but not narrow.


Legislation decriminalized pedophilia, that makes rape legal. Somehow you see that as bigotry that rape is illegal, mind boggling.
21   Automan Empire   ignore (2)   2020 Jan 30, 7:34pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

That's your attempt at a response to my point? "You must be gay." Guess there was no reason to expect anything more sophisticated.

You're dodging my questions. If the law punishes gay couples the same as straight couples, would you be OK with that?

Also, how do you feel about gun laws made by people who hate guns was asked recently as well.
22   Fortwaynemobile   ignore (3)   2020 Jan 30, 8:34pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

You are dodging all logic.

Decriminalizing pedophilia isn’t good. If someone wasn’t punished enough, they should be, instead of making crime legal.
You have a pretty narrow view of justice when everything revolves about equality. But I guess you aren’t narrow in your mind because you are open to gay relationships if circumstances are ok.

Automan Empire says
You're dodging my questions. If the law punishes gay couples the same as straight couples, would you be OK with that?
23   Automan Empire   ignore (2)   2020 Jan 30, 8:42pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Still dodging the questions. Are you in favor of making and enforcing "anti-pedophilia" laws with the same standards and punishments whether the people involved are gay or straight?
24   marcus   ignore (13)   2020 Jan 30, 11:30pm     ↓ dislike (3)   quote   flag      

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What is the point of the legislation ?

How retarded does one have to be to really think that the people behind the bill were looking to allow or encourage 20 year old gay kids to have consensual sex with 14 year olds?

Fortwayne, you need to read this and stop your misinformed virtue signaling. https://qvoicenews.com/2019/08/16/california-senate-bill-145-would-end-sentencing-discrimination/

Also, you should not let NoCoup manipulate your mind like that. He posts this stuff especially for gullible right wingers that can't think for themselves. He doesn't even believe his own bullshit. Or at least I hope not.

Don't let your fantasies about left wingers take you so far out of the real world.
26   NoCoupForYou   ignore (4)   2020 Jan 31, 6:37am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Is Anal and Vaginal sex equal?

No. Anal is far riskier when it comes to almost every disease transmission as well as other diseases that can't be transmitted via vaginal sex, like E. Coli and Shigella and even parasites. Being the "bottom" is far riskier. Who thinks the bottom in a 23-year old gay man with a 15-year old high school kid is going to be the older man?
https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/analsex.html


The risk of HIV transmission during anal intercourse may be around 18 times greater than during vaginal intercourse, according to the results of a meta-analysis published online ahead of print in the International Journal of Epidemiology.

http://www.aidsmap.com/news/jun-2010/hiv-transmission-risk-during-anal-sex-18-times-higher-during-vaginal-sex

This doesn't even get into the huge disparity of condom use when it comes to Anal vs. Vaginal sex.

Treating far more risky anal sex the same as vaginal sex in terms of risk to public health is absurd and anti-scientific.
27   Hircus   ignore (0)   2020 Jan 31, 5:46pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Fortwaynemobile says
Loser Liberals won’t do anything until lgbts rape their kids in middle school and get away with it.


They still wont act. They will say "non-lqbtq people also rape children, so stop being a bigot."

Just like they do today, even if they see facts that show them that rainbow people assault children at FAR higher rates, they will just lie and pretend that they commit the crime at the same rate as all other groups. I'm sure you can think of a few cases where they do this already, and so they will do it some more.
28   Hircus   ignore (0)   2020 Jan 31, 5:57pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

HeadSet says
@NoCoupForYou Sorry, accidentally hit "dislike" on your post. Should have let my hands warm up before clicking.


you can unclick it now
29   HeadSet   ignore (3)   2020 Jan 31, 7:04pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Hircus says
HeadSet says
@NoCoupForYou Sorry, accidentally hit "dislike" on your post. Should have let my hands warm up before clicking.


you can unclick it now


Done, thanks.
30   Fortwaynemobile   ignore (3)   2020 Jan 31, 7:36pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

No you are dodging logic.

Decriminalizing crime isn’t an answer. This is new CA where by virtue of butt fucking one can commit crimes. New liberal religion these days.

Automan Empire says
Still dodging the questions. Are you in favor of making and enforcing "anti-pedophilia" laws with the same standards and punishments whether the people involved are gay or straight?
31   rd6B   ignore (1)   2020 Feb 1, 8:11am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I don't really agree with @NoCoupForYou about a lot of this stuff - people should be able to do whatever they want in their bedrooms, and who am I (or for that matter other Patnetters) to say that something is better or worse than what I prefer. Make consent age 16 and let them do whatever. If people are happy being gay, good for them - and good for me as well, more pussy for straight guys.

With respect to different standards/punishments for different types of offenders - we can talk also about male vs female sex offender punishments, not only straight vs gay. Where is that legislation?

Having said that, there is a worrying trend that NoCoup notes (and @AutomanEmpire disagrees with), namely attempts to normalize everything. For example, in any public interaction organized for kids, the adult participants are supposed to be screened, to undergo online trainings of how to interact with kids etc. At our school I had to do this several times when lecturing to high school kids. Then lets take a look what happens when transgendereds get involved:

https://www.khou.com/article/news/local/houston-public-library-admits-registered-child-sex-offender-read-to-kids-in-drag-queen-storytime/285-becf3a0d-56c5-4f3c-96df-add07bbd002a

HOUSTON — A registered child sex offender has been reading to children at Houston Public Library as part of its Drag Queen Storytime. A media spokesperson for the library confirmed one of those drag queens, Tatiana Mala Nina, is Alberto Garza, a 32-year-old child sex offender.

So, if you are a regular fucking white male (or for that matter black male or female, or whatever), you have to be checked and rechecked, and undergo trainings. If you are a transgendered sex offender, all is fine and these requirements are waived. This is quite interesting and seems to support NoCoup's idea that something is brewing behind the curtain.
32   Automan Empire   ignore (2)   2020 Feb 1, 1:13pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Fortwaynemobile says
This is new CA where by virtue of butt fucking one can commit crimes.


Your answer to this speaks to the origins and depth of your engagement in this issue. Are you in favor of making and enforcing "anti-pedophilia" laws with the same standards and punishments whether the people involved are gay or straight?
33   NoCoupForYou   ignore (4)   2020 Feb 1, 2:04pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

rd6B says
So, if you are a regular fucking white male (or for that matter black male or female, or whatever), you have to be checked and rechecked, and undergo trainings. If you are a transgendered sex offender, all is fine and these requirements are waived. This is quite interesting and seems to support NoCoup's idea that something is brewing behind the curtain.


You can abuse up to 15 children (convicted for 2 cases) and get early release from prison if you switch genders:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/iowa-releasing-convicted-sex-offender-due-to-sex-change-lowering-chance-of-re-offending
34   NoCoupForYou   ignore (4)   2020 Feb 7, 2:39pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

University Researchers working with Pedo activists to survey "MAPs" (Minor Attracted Persons, the new PC/SJW term for Pedos).
https://www.thepostmillennial.com/exclusive-university-professors-are-working-with-pro-pedophile-charity/
35   Ceffer   ignore (5)   2020 Feb 7, 2:44pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I have to admit, the proposed laws mandating quartering of pedophiles in upper middle class homes seemed a bit over the top. However, I suppose it segues well with the parachuted ghetto drops with every housing development, now.
36   HeadSet   ignore (3)   2020 Feb 7, 4:17pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

proposed laws mandating quartering of pedophiles in upper middle class homes

Unless the pedos are also soldiers, because mandatory quartering of soldiers violates the Third Amendment.
37   Fortwaynemobile   ignore (3)   2020 Feb 7, 4:28pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

They are just trying to make pedo shit acceptable.

The line has been moving fast in CA lately.
All the dick suckers got elected to office in our state.

They were furious at Trump where his inclusivity speech mentioned religion, but not faggots.

HeadSet says
proposed laws mandating quartering of pedophiles in upper middle class homes

Unless the pedos are also soldiers, because mandatory quartering of soldiers violates the Third Amendment.
38   Fortwaynemobile   ignore (3)   2020 Feb 7, 4:39pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I want them fucking shot dead or imprisoned regardless of their lifestyles.

Society’s future is children, letting pedos fuck them is a crime against society.

Automan Empire says
Fortwaynemobile says
This is new CA where by virtue of butt fucking one can commit crimes.


Your answer to this speaks to the origins and depth of your engagement in this issue. Are you in favor of making and enforcing "anti-pedophilia" laws with the same standards and punishments whether the people involved are gay or straight?
39   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostakovitch   ignore (53)   2020 Feb 7, 4:47pm     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag      

A filthy slutty 9 year old using her WANTON! body with the appearance of a 2 year old should just be arrested and charged with premeditating TOO! MUCH! LOVE!

Why do you hate LOVE?
40   marcus   ignore (13)   2020 Feb 7, 8:36pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

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Are you so afraid that great leader will fail in moving us further towards fascism that you lower yourself to calling liberals pedophiles ?

NoCoupForYou says
Minor Attracted Persons, the new PC/SJW term for Pedos


You have to know I'm not with the far left sjws and pc crowd when they go over the top. But you are seriously reaching when you fantasize that sjws are going to be backing tolerance of pedophiles. Sure the term exists among some mental health people that believe in decreasing the stigma (maybe reflecting their own sympathy). You're not going to hear wide sjw backing pedophile tolerance anytime soon.

Again, not that I back most sjw nonsense these days. It's just that this is a pure and total political fantasy on your part. Dream on.

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