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NGTOW - Putin's new power play

By Tenpoundbass follow Tenpoundbass   2020 Jan 15, 10:34am 329 views   26 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share    


Nations going their own way.
It seems over the last 4 to 5 years, several countries leaders have decided to become the supreme defacto leader. Abe from Japan, Xi from China, Duarte, Balsonaro, and now Putin. They are rejecting the norms of Western Democracy and for a great reason. Not because they want to oppress their country and turn into a North Korea isolated dictatorship. But for one and one reason only. So the Commie Socialist Shit Stirrers can't come and meddle in their country, run a spending campaign to oust leadership that would have otherwise been voted in by the citizens, with Puppets, these NGO's can get to do their bidding. These organizations are not meddling in countries to make life better for the citizens, but they are there to take them over, through dishonest election campaigns, and Marxist propaganda to upset the norms of their national civic pride and replace it with deep seated resentment of their country, the history and the leaders.

Global Foundations will be the biggest threat to humanity going forward in the next 5 to 20 years out, they will lead to WWIII and Nukes getting tossed about. Not the Putin's,

May Putin go with God, and if he knows what's good for his country he needs to disappear every Liberal NGO and Foundation idiot that steps foot in his Country.

You Commie bastards get NOTHING! Good DAY!
1   rd6B   ignore (1)   2020 Jan 15, 12:09pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tenpoundbass says
May Putin go with God, and if he knows what's good for his country he needs to disappear every Liberal NGO and Foundation idiot that steps foot in his Country.

You Commie bastards get NOTHING! Good DAY!

Sadly, Putin is a commie bastard with a flavor of organized crime. I don't get why some Patnetters are so fond of him. He is no different than Kim, or other Oriental despots.
If someone wants to protect their country from NGO's, go Polish or Hungarian way, without a botoxed idiot running country longer than any previous commies and without stuffing ballot boxes (in ethnic republics of Russia 110% of inhabitants voted for Putler the Great - reminds me of Democrat voting in some locales of USA).
2   The_Weeping_Ayatollah   ignore (5)   2020 Jan 15, 12:25pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

rd6B says
Tenpoundbass says
May Putin go with God, and if he knows what's good for his country he needs to disappear every Liberal NGO and Foundation idiot that steps foot in his Country.

You Commie bastards get NOTHING! Good DAY!

Sadly, Putin is a commie bastard with a flavor of organized crime. I don't get why some Patnetters are so fond of him. He is no different than Kim, or other Oriental despots.
If someone wants to protect their country from NGO's, go Polish or Hungarian way, without a botoxed idiot running country longer than any previous commies and without stuffing ballot boxes (in ethnic republics of Russia 110% of inhabitants voted for Putler the Great - reminds me of Democrat voting in some locales of USA).


Well put.
3   Tenpoundbass   ignore (16)   2020 Jan 15, 1:50pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I'm not fond of him, but I do trust him and everyone from Kim to the other despots over all of the Soros organizations and the Dark Regime change money backed Celebs and other Philanthropic hacks and know it fucking alls.

We know what we got with those despots we know where they are, who they are, and what they are doing. Those cockroaches hiding behind the pig tailed Retard, scare me more than ALL of them.
4   Tenpoundbass   ignore (16)   2020 Jan 15, 1:54pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Besides you guys heard Putin and immediately repulsed now rethink what I said.

No elections, no meddling, no foreign influence, no EU agitators disguised as election monitors, no smear campaigns, no hoax international crimes to bring them down when their guy loses. What they do to foreign elections is indefensible.
5   Tenpoundbass   ignore (16)   2020 Jan 15, 1:56pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

besides look at what the Democrats are doing to the Democratic process image in the rest of the world. Putin has a valid defense if he points to Pelosi and Pencil neck as proof it doesn't work. This is all Democrats, Liberals and Socialists fault. They have fucked up world peace and harmony because they hate Trump.
6   rd6B   ignore (1)   2020 Jan 15, 2:11pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tenpoundbass says
No elections

That is a problem - no different from Kimfuck or ayatollahs. What if after dictator you like comes a left-wing dictator you do not like?

Tenpoundbass says
besides look at what the Democrats are doing to the Democratic process image in the rest of the world.

Sure, but there are ways to avoid foreign interference in elections and still have population decide whom they want in power. What it boils down to is enforcing the existing laws.
7   mell   ignore (4)   2020 Jan 15, 3:55pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Russia has the leader it deserves/needs. No different than the middle east needing Saddam/Assad. Do you think the small dipshit countries of the ex soviet union aren't corrupt to the core? Ukraine?? They'd all declare independence from each other and fight each other without any plan on how to work with your neighbors and establish an economy. Look what happened in Ex-Yugoslavia. Split into Serbia and Bosnia and Kosovo, the latter 2 immediately to be filled up with the snackbar plague, esp. Kosovo descended into the typical middle-eastern religious quagmire. And the Serbians were trialed for war-crimes! It's clear now that a unified Yugoslavia dominated by Christian tradition would have been much better than this shit war that ensued. There's not alternative to Putin right now. Like there's no Alternative for people who don't like Trump because the rabid leftoid Dems are batshit crazy.
8   The_Weeping_Ayatollah   ignore (5)   2020 Jan 15, 4:08pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

mell says
Look what happened in Ex-Yugoslavia. Split into Serbia and Bosnia and Kosovo, the latter 2 immediately to be filled up with the snackbar plague, esp. Kosovo descended into the typical middle-eastern religious quagmire. And the Serbians were trialed for war-crimes! It's clear now that a unified Yugoslavia dominated by Christian tradition would have been much better than this shit war that ensued.


Explain the Serbs attacking Christian Chroatia while you are at this. No snackbar people there for sure - a Catholic nation through and through.

The truth is: Serbia is a miniature Russia with the same unwarranted imperialistic feeling that they "own" their neighbors and have the "right" to dominate them. They don't.

BTW, many of the same Russian fucks who started the fake "uprising" in Crimea and Eastern Ukraine were figting for various Serbian "militias" in the 90s. Meanwhile their own country is mostly unoccupied, has no decent roads even in the European part of it and 1/3 of the population has no access to real toilets - they literally shit in the holes in the ground. Yet, the fuckers are busy building their "empire".
9   NoCoupForYou   ignore (5)   2020 Jan 15, 4:17pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Serbs will tell you they fought the Turks tooth and nail, and whenever they prevailed for 5 minutes, the Croatians stabbed them in the back and invaded.

Also, Jasenovac
10   HEYYOU   ignore (46)   2020 Jan 15, 4:17pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Why does anyone left of center respond to Communist China export owning? TPB
11   mell   ignore (4)   2020 Jan 15, 4:18pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The_Weeping_Ayatollah says
mell says
Look what happened in Ex-Yugoslavia. Split into Serbia and Bosnia and Kosovo, the latter 2 immediately to be filled up with the snackbar plague, esp. Kosovo descended into the typical middle-eastern religious quagmire. And the Serbians were trialed for war-crimes! It's clear now that a unified Yugoslavia dominated by Christian tradition would have been much better than this shit war that ensued.


Explain the Serbs attacking Christian Chroatia while you are at this. No snackbar people there for sure - a Catholic nation through and through.

The truth is: Serbia is a miniature Russia with the same unwarranted imperialistic feeling that they "own" their neighbors and have the "right" to dominate them. They don't.


That's true but the Catholics had various love affairs with the Muslims and need to be reminded of their Christian duties - look no further than the Ustashe. I'm Catholic and don't care that much about all the different Christian splinters but I surely want Christians in charge that know how to keep the snackbar plague out. Imperialists or not, that's the lesser of two evils.
12   The_Weeping_Ayatollah   ignore (5)   2020 Jan 15, 4:18pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

NoCoupForYou says
Serbs will tell you they fought the Turks tooth and nail, and whenever they prevailed for 5 minutes, the Croatians stabbed them in the back and invaded.


Right. Good reason to stirr the bloody shit at the end of 20th century. This is exactly what I'm talking about: attacking neighbors because of some "grievances" and emperial phantom pains of the centuries past.
13   The_Weeping_Ayatollah   ignore (5)   2020 Jan 15, 4:22pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

mell says
look no further than the Ustashe.


Ustashe-mustache: when was the last time they were active, 1945? See what I'm talking about: "let's invade some country and kill people now because their grandfathers were in some militia half a century ago - it's a totally legit reason, you must agree!".

The real reason was the attempt to preserve their little "empire", of course.
14   mell   ignore (4)   2020 Jan 15, 4:28pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The_Weeping_Ayatollah says
mell says
look no further than the Ustashe.


Ustashe-mustache: when was the last time they were active, 1945? See what I'm talking about: "let's kill people now because their grandfathers were in some militia some 50 years ago.


Yes, but the point remains to be vigilant about middle-eastern invaders. Kosovo may turn out as one of the very few successful integration examples of a "westernized" Islam, but a lot of it still stems from their gratefulness to the West for rescuing and defending them during the 1998-1999 war and supporting their independence. We'll need a few more years/decades to come to a conclusion.
15   NoCoupForYou   ignore (5)   2020 Jan 15, 4:40pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The_Weeping_Ayatollah says
Right. Good reason to stirr the bloody shit at the end of 20th century. This is exactly what I'm talking about: attacking neighbors because of some "grievances" and emperial phantom pains of the centuries past.


Croatians declared independence when they lost an election like Hillary Voters, then Trudman rounded up every male Serb in the Krajina. The Serbs saw that and flipped the fuck out. Their old WW2 allies, Germany and Austria, flooded Croatia with guns while demanding the UN and EU completely cut off Serbia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miroslav_Filipovi%C4%87
16   The_Weeping_Ayatollah   ignore (5)   2020 Jan 15, 4:46pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

NoCoupForYou says
Croatians declared independence when they lost an election like Hillary Voters


When did they "lose election"? Tujman's party won in 1990. It's the Serbs who started to stirr the shit like Hillary Voters because they didn't like the results and the path to Chroation independence it paved.
17   Tenpoundbass   ignore (16)   2020 Jan 15, 4:51pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

rd6B says
Sure, but there are ways to avoid foreign interference in elections and still have population decide whom they want in power. What it boils down to is enforcing the existing laws.


These Soros, Gates, Clinton and soon to be Harry and Markle foundations do just that, and do so with no laws what so ever prohibiting them. International law supports it, and every NATO country supports it. It's how we get our foot in countries, Presidents and Senators vote on bombing the shit out of, after the philanthropists have had their way.
18   NoCoupForYou   ignore (5)   2020 Jan 15, 4:54pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The_Weeping_Ayatollah says
When did they "lose election"? Tujman's party won in 1990. It's the Serbs who started to stirr the shit like Hillary Voters because they didn't like the results and the path to Chroation independence it paved.


Trudman didn't win the national Yugoslav government. The deal with independence and rebels is there is only one excuse - If you win. Which, the Croats did, mostly by imprisoning and ethnically cleansing Serbs. When the Serbs returned the pleasure, all of a sudden Germany and Austria got mad and screamed NATO! UN!

We shouldn't have been involved one iota.

Also superhypercritical, because the Serbs were purged from the Krajina, nobody cared. From Kosovo, nobody cared. Some Croats and Muslims expelled from Serbian majority areas? Noooo! UN! NATO! Intervention! Human Rights.

The best result for ethnic conflicts is to let them ethnically cleanse everything to some level of stability.

The Serb's only "Crime" was not having a real Sponsor. Bosnia had the Gulf States threatening Oil cut offs to Europe, and Croatia had their Axis allies from WW2. Serbia's traditional protector was consumed with bartering ashtrays for bread: Russia.

We Ethnically cleansed the F out of Europe after WW2, with the Soviets. The only two places with ethnic conflict we didn't ethnically cleanse by force, was Northern Ireland and Yugoslavia (which mostly liberated itself).
19   rd6B   ignore (1)   2020 Jan 15, 5:02pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

NoCoupForYou says
Some Croats and Muslims expelled from Serbian majority areas

Neither Bosnians nor Croats did killing on the scale Serbs did in 1990's. Also, Bosnian leadership was against breaking up of the Yugoslavia - Serbs repaid them in blood.
As far as I remember, it was Milosevic who could not get his way in collective presidency and who started stirring up Serbian minority in Croatia, to which Croats responded with force, to which Serbs responded with attacks on everyone not Serbian...plenty of blame to go around but Serbs definitely look the worst.

And these attacks on Bosnians made sure that instead of dropping their Muslim religion, they are now more religious than they have even been before. Same with Chechens - they were not religious until early 1990's and now, courtesy of Russian bombings, we can not read about ISIS without mentioning Chechen troops.
20   rd6B   ignore (1)   2020 Jan 15, 5:05pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

mell says
Kosovo may turn out as one of the very few successful integration examples of a "westernized" Islam

That's because they are not really Islamic. They were "Islamicized" very late, and Enver Hoxha tried and somewhat succeeded in stamping out religion...
21   NoCoupForYou   ignore (5)   2020 Jan 15, 5:07pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

rd6B says
Neither Bosnians nor Croats did killing on the scale Serbs did in 1990's. Also, Bosnian leadership was against breaking up of the Yugoslavia - Serbs repaid them in blood.


Islamist Terrorists migrated to Bosnia in the thousands - evading the Italian Naval blockade by magic - and chopped off plenty of Serbian (and not a few Croatian) heads.

I disagree with EU/Sam Powers assessment, but I don't deny Serbian atrocities.
22   rd6B   ignore (1)   2020 Jan 15, 5:09pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

NoCoupForYou says
Islamist Terrorists migrated to Bosnia in the thousands - evading the Italian Naval blockade by magic - and chopped off plenty of Serbian (and not a few Croatian) heads.

Sure, after Serbians killed off a lot of Muslims and no one else would directly help Bosniaks. If I would be attacked, I would accept help from anyone...in a sense we can blame Serbians here, not formerly atheistic Bosnians
23   NoCoupForYou   ignore (5)   2020 Jan 15, 5:16pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Croats started with almost nothing since the Yugoslav Army was Serb dominated. Where did their arms come from?



https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1995-08-20-9508200215-story.html

''There is an arms embargo, but apart from NATO ships patrolling the Adriatic, no one is enforcing it,'' says Tim Ripley of the London-based Jane's Intelligence Review. ''If you have enough money, and a willingness to go to the right places, people will sell you whatever you want.''

https://www.csmonitor.com/1995/0802/02061.html

Very easy to smuggle when you have Germans at Brussels HQ seeing fleet dispositions in real time.

I should point out that the Rapefugees make a beeline around Serbia - and now Hungary. Imagine the Visegrad group with Serbia as well.
24   rd6B   ignore (1)   2020 Jan 15, 5:21pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

NoCoupForYou says
Where did their arms come from?

Austria and Germany (at least initially), it is very-well known. I am sure Hungarians helped as well, as this was 1990's rampant Chicago-style capitalism in E. Europe where it was not difficult to buy anything, including arms.

The only ones who were decently armed in 1991 (besides Serbs) were Slovenians who were able to beat them off. For some reason, they were able to appropriate Territorial Defense weapons to much greater extent than Croats.
25   NoCoupForYou   ignore (5)   2020 Jan 15, 5:53pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I was just sitting on the John, when I thought of a Supreme Irony of the Whole Thing

EU, 1995: "There's no way Croats, Serbs, and Bosniaks can live together in one state in Europe"

EU, 2015: "There's no problem bringing in millions of Muslim Eritreans, Somalians, Sudanese, Moroccans, Afghanis, etc. to live together in every state in Europe."

Even more bizarre when you consider Serbo-Croatian is the same language with a different alphabet and a more compatible religious thread.
26   rd6B   ignore (1)   2020 Jan 15, 6:36pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

NoCoupForYou says
Serbo-Croatian is the same language with a different alphabet and a more compatible religious thread.

Bosnians have the same language as well, essentially.

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