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Civil War Begins When the Constitutional Order Breaks Down

By TrumpingTits follow TrumpingTits   2019 Nov 4, 8:29pm 402 views   10 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share    


https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/civil-war-begins-when-the-constitutional-order-breaks-down/

Here is a quick template for how we might more usefully decipher how this nation gets to another civil war. It is arranged as a short series of questions: 1) What is civil war? 2) Why do political-constitutional orders sometimes breakdown, rather than simply transform in response to change? 3) How is violence essential to constitutional and political resolution? 4) How close is the U.S. to such a break down, and its consequences?


Article defines each. And it is very, very prescient of the current situation, too.

Example,

What is civil war?

Civil war is, at root, a contest over legitimacy. Legitimacy—literally the right to make law — is shorthand for the consent of the citizens and political parties to abide by the authority of a constitutional order. Civil war begins when this larger political compact breaks down.

Civil War means that there is a functional split within the source of legitimacy between two parties, each of which was formerly part of the old constitutional order. Thus each can claim that it represents the source of new legitimacy, and the right to define a new or reworked constitutional order.


1   steverbeaver   ignore (1)   2019 Nov 4, 8:37pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Aw come on you know it won't be contained to our borders. Blues would cry for help from uncles Xi and Trudeau at the minimum, and they would oblige.
2   TEOTWAWKI   ignore (5)   2019 Nov 4, 11:17pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

steverbeaver says
Aw come on you know it won't be contained to our borders. Blues would cry for help from uncles Xi and Trudeau at the minimum, and they would oblige.


Trudeau doesn't even have his own MBTs: Canucks loan them from zee Germans and they are all on the Eurasian continent.
3   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostakovitch   ignore (52)   2019 Nov 5, 7:07am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

At any moment, REAL! AMERICA!ns could pull the M60s and M134 off the racks and waste the 200 million snowflakes WHO! HATE! AMERICA! and take the surviving women as breeder slaves to begin the long process of repopulating AMERICA! with REAL! RELIABLE! PATRIOTS! WITH! BLOOD! IN! THE! EYE! FOR! FREEDOM! and REALIZE! THE! FOUNDERS! DREAM!

EVERY MAN ARMED!

EVERY MAN FREE!

EVERY MAN COMMANDER OF HIS OWN! ENTERPRISE!

EVERY MAN! IN! OPEN! CONTEST! FOR! CONTROL! OF EVERY EXPLOITABLE ATOM IN THE UNIVERSE!

DIE! DIE! DIE!, COMMIE! FUCKS!, DIE! DIE! DIE!
4   TrumpingTits   ignore (3)   2019 Dec 10, 11:12pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

And now the Dems are violating norms by having totally partisan impeachment over a POTUS they simply could not accept got elected.

They haven't even bothered to pin their articles of impeachment on any actual crimes other than "waaaah...he pisses us off".

Obstruction of Justice by not cooperating with Congress just like Obama did with GOP House committees?

Abuse of power for not really doing what Biden did actually do as VP?

And where are the criminal statutes referenced for these 'crimes'? Clinton had a indictments against him and/or was forced to admit to it under oath...and then later on TV.

These hypocrisy Nothingburgerisms are perfect examples of the constitutional order breaking down.

Yo Libtards! Just wait when there's another Dem POTUS. Just wait.
5   HEYYOU   ignore (47)   2019 Dec 11, 12:15pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Republicans & their children dying in their civil war is the only reason to have a civil war.
Sorry RepCons your keyboard will not protect you or your families.

TrumpingTits says
Yo Libtards! Just wait when there's another Dem POTUS. Just wait.


Republicans can start whatever shit they want. They are not immune to high speed,hot lead,particularly their children.
6   Ceffer   ignore (5)   2019 Dec 11, 12:57pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The Law is a joke, and has become a tool for selective persecution and disenfranchisement. It is flouted routinely by the captive, immune, lobbyist engorged politicians in an unembarrassed way on the national (and state in California) stages.

When people start to recognize that their votes don't matter, and there is a disconnect from the corrupt dealings of the apparatchiks of the central government, then it's time for an amputation and a re-boot.
7   Shaman   ignore (2)   2019 Dec 11, 1:10pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

steverbeaver says
Aw come on you know it won't be contained to our borders. Blues would cry for help from uncles Xi and Trudeau at the minimum, and they would oblige.


That sure would clarify the situation for our armed forces. They’d easily know which side to support!
8   BlueSardine   ignore (3)   2019 Dec 11, 1:27pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

So what? So does "Leave it to beaver" on the playboy channel.
Worry when "Uncivil war" begins...

"Civil war begins"
9   Patrick   ignore (1)   2019 Dec 14, 4:27pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Ceffer says
When people start to recognize that their votes don't matter, and there is a disconnect from the corrupt dealings of the apparatchiks of the central government, then it's time for an amputation and a re-boot.


Agreed, but the election of Trump proves that democracy is not entirely dead in America yet.

The Democrats are trying hard to kill it though, by undemocratically undoing the result of a legitimate election with bogus impeachment hearings.

If they win, democracy really is dead.
10   HEYYOU   ignore (47)   2019 Dec 14, 4:37pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The Right of 63,000,000 Democrats to BOYCOTT all Republican businesses can not be infringed.

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