2015 Feb 9, 7:43am
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We can't ban offensive speech because then we'd be at the mercy of the most easily offended; the lowest common denominator, and wouldn't be able to discuss jack shit.
There are many ideas that we will never agree on. The left and the right have different ways of approaching governance, based on contrasting philosophies. But many of the ultimate goals — economic prosperity, better health care and education, etc. — are the same. We just don’t share the same vision of how to achieve them.How, then, do we live together in this world of differing ideas? For starters, let’s agree that the ideas are fair game. If you think my idea is awful, you should say as much. But there is a difference between attacking an idea and attacking the person behind that idea. Labeling someone as an “-ist” who believes in an “-ism” because of the person’s policy preference is just a shortcut to playground-style name-calling, cloaked in political terminology. It’s also generally a good indication that the attacker doesn’t have a solid argument and needs a way to end debate before it has even begun.Similarly, people too often attack not just an idea but also the supposed intent behind an idea. That raises the emotional level of the debate and might seem like it strengthens the attacker’s side, but it’s a terrible way to make a point. Assuming the worst about your opponents’ intentions has the effect of demonizing their ideas, removing the need for sound counter-reasoning and fact-based argument. That’s not a good environment for the exchange of ideas.
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I have lost my patience with the violent left.Last straw was the murder of a young mother named Jessica Doty Whitaker in Indianapolis because she said "All lives matter."All of their TDS shit is incitement to murder like this. They will not post their shit here anymore.No more leftists, no more murders.Reasoned debate welcomed, but the left is very weak at anything except calling people "racist", inciting hate, and murder, so I don't expect anything but more of the same from them.
mell saysthey will go loot and burn and murder innocent peopleWho are they ? All the liberals ? All the people to the left of Mitch McConnell. The worst thing is when one side becomes authoritarian or worse when both poles do that. Funny that when right wingers engage in extreme censorship, their own cancel culture, or total authoritarian behavior, they can not even see it. Meanwhile centrist or even conservative liberals, get grouped by these right wing authoritarians with criminal assholes that are off the charts on the left.
they will go loot and burn and murder innocent people
Lol, where does that come from?
mell saysI think the automatic moderation comes from being flagged repeatedly.No the automatic moderation comes from a sequence of events. Patrick is afraid of what I will say.The only reason I am saying anything is becasue I guess to have a few last words about this sad situation before I leave. Unfortunatley , Patrick will very likely delete any comment of mine actually describing what happened. I guess what happened is that my posting negative memes or cartoons about Trump is now "inciting violence." Sometimes the self righteousness becomes too much for a right winger to bear.
I think the automatic moderation comes from being flagged repeatedly.
SO much irony. What too many BLM folks don't realize is that the actions of a few incompetent cops shouldn't be generalized on to all police or worse on to the entire "white supremacist culture."Meanwhile give a right winger a few isolated sick or evil incidents that they can generalize on to the entire "left" and watch how fast they will do it with relish. And by the left, I mean anyone not planning on voting for Dear Leader.
Meanwhile give a right winger a few isolated sick or evil incidents
Seriously, I am going to delete all TDS because it is thinly disguised incitement to murder.It's not funny anymore. The left is literally murdering people because of TDS.https://www.foxnews.com/us/wisconsin-man-targeting-white-person-killed-motorcyclist These are not "isolated" incidents. They follow directly from pervasive leftist hate in the media and in academia.It is preparation for genocide.
Cmon these incidents are not isolated
mell saysCmon these incidents are not isolatedActually they are. They are not in any way what BLM people wanted. WE all know who benefits from those events. This is how authoritarian governments come to be.
Floyd had a big rap sheet including armed robbery and was high on many drugs and aggressive and tried to pay with counterfeit money
Actually they are. They are not in any way what BLM people wanted.
@PatrickI think the newest format here, with @marcus and some others being moderated, will change the site to an echo chamber, at which point posting here will become a boring "preaching to crowd". Not that it is much of my business, but I liked the previous policy "talk about everything but do not offend other users" better.
I disagree. I used to be of your thinking, but no longer. I have a number of disagreements with many of the posters, in particular Wookie Man and 10 lb bass but they pale in importance to the garbage and gaslighting being spewed by the left. So I choose to address the dangerous crap the left is doing.
This is how authoritarian governments come to be.
What do you THINK BLM is in support of? Their own website talks of the Marxist revolution they are planning. All of the useful idiots currently supporting them on the street will be rewarded with a bullet to the head or a Zyklon B shower.
BLM doesn’t believe what you want them to believe Marcus. It’s funny that you have to create an alternate belief structure for them in order to justify your continued support. But you don’t need to take my word for it. You can get it straight from the horses mouth. No doubt at all that BLM wants the authoritarian government:https://blacklivesmatter.com/our-co-founders/
I have a number of disagreements with many of the posters, in particular Wookie Man and 10 lb bass but they pale in importance to the garbage and gaslighting being spewed by the left.
One of the biggest issues I have is when I know of personal information from a source I don't want to dox and someone says it's a lie. There's no motivation for me to lie. I just wouldn't post on the topic. Plain and simple. I'm going to tell you that you're wrong and I have legitimate information. Just because I'm not willing to risk peoples jobs and personal information on this site, doesn't make some of my comments untrue.
Wait until I retire and move out of state. My personal experience will blow some minds :)I use rea life examples sometimes but there’s others where I wanna scream bullshit and sit the poster down like a little child and tell them how horribly wrong they are. 7-10 years.
The authoritarians are ALL on the left.
The left believes in collectivism, elimination of private property, and the primacy of the state over family and religion. Unless your a sheep you will revolt. If you do revolt you will be eliminated.
We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.We foster a queer‐affirming network. When we gather, we do so with the intention of freeing ourselves from the tight grip of heteronormative thinking, or rather, the belief that all in the world are heterosexual (unless s/he or they disclose otherwise).
the belief that all in the world are heterosexual (unless s/he or they disclose otherwise).
Patrick saysthe belief that all in the world are heterosexual (unless s/he or they disclose otherwise).Sounds reasonable to me. If someone wants to be queer, tranny, or whatever, I have no problem with that. If they insist on making me accept them as mainstream or try to indoctrinate my kids, then we have a problem.
And that's where the breakdown occurs. The indoctrination of it all. That it's normal.
WookieMan saysAnd that's where the breakdown occurs. The indoctrination of it all. That it's normal.I agree. The indoctrination is the truly evil part, especially because they target children and ruin their lives.
They get government child support when these guys ultimately go to prison. The incentive from their own culture and then the government is for black men to go to jail. That's literally their job to provide for the kids. Get busted so baby mama can get a check
white people are only 36% of California and falling fast
Never considered that part of it. An actual financial incentive to go to jail.
Hispanics are white or not? They hate a certain non-white race much more than anyone else
Not that any of you would watch it.
hatred of Trump was never incitement of violence
That's academia for you. Not actually about doing anything, just talking in circles.
I was a liberal arts major at first and it was very depressing how no one would agree on anything, all constantly trying to stomp each other because of ego, and no one with any clear job path.
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