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  bob2356   ignore (5)   2018 Oct 19, 2:38pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Strategist says
Think about it. If Muslims have the highest birth rates, and all other religions face declining birth rates, it's just a matter of time before Muslims are the only group with a positive birth rate. It's not just probable, but very likely.

If? Probable? Likely?

Blue says

Not true, you missed that I did add one percent rate to the rest, currently its less than 1.7 though as per us censers and falling.

Nothing like well researched and documented information. What exactly is the muslim birth rate in the US? How about compared to other groups? The other groups that you generously took 40% off of their birth rates. Don't let facts screw you up but birth rates of all groups including muslims drops through the floor when they move from a poor country to a first world country.

Even majority muslim countries have falling birth rates. The fertility rate across all 49 Muslim-majority countries fell from 4.3 children per woman in 1990-95 to about 2.9 in 2010-15. This was still higher than the global fertility rate in 2015, but it’s a strikingly fast drop given the fact that it took some Western European countries nearly a century to transition from six children per woman to three.

But hey it's true because I believe it should be true is still the gold standard of proof on patnet.
  bob2356   ignore (5)   2018 Oct 19, 2:52pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Quigley says

So... it seems like the government pulled a fast one with social security savings.

No, a whole bunch of people didn't bother to hold their political leaders accountable. The information has been out there all along.
  bob2356   ignore (5)   2018 Oct 19, 3:02pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
Multiple people in the thread had to repeat that fact, then he complained that the numbers disproving his conception of reality were being posted by multiple users.

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says

Hey Bob, did you read the instructions?

Did you figure out the numbers for the non presidential races yet? But hey, multiple people posted the same numbers totally irrelevant to the point. I guess they are still working on figuring out 2018 isn't a presidential election year.
  bob2356   ignore (5)   2018 Oct 19, 3:20pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

dr6B says
bob2356 says
The question still stands. Are the people who spent the last 50 years building the current libertarian republican party dominance going to let D's control the house without spending very dime they can throw at the races?

First, most R's (with exception of Paul who was redistricted out by his colleagues) are not libertarian. Second, I do not believe that "big money" cares which party is in power, so they will support "useful idiots" from either party.

Most R's have made a deal with the devil and if they don't dance to the libertarian tune they will see their funding disappear and face a strong heavily funded primary challenge from some one who will. Big money? Who's big money? Big money on both sides very much cares which party is in power. Only big money on the R side has a long term coordinated plan they have been executing for 40 years.

So the question still stands, after reaching pretty much the pinnacle of their long term goals are the big boys on the right going to roll over and let the D's take back the house? Hint, the koch bro's libertarian network is planning to spend 60% more on republican congressional races in 2018 than 2016 at 400 million. Which is 150 million more than the RNC can come up with. I would say that is a pretty impressive concentration of money and power in one single group that all R politicians have to respect.
  bob2356   ignore (5)   2018 Oct 19, 3:22pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says
Actually, it would not be surprising if one of MSBs buddies held out the phone for Trump to run over his speakerphone for Ivanka and the kids to listen to the libby hack being sawed to death.

When are the turks going to post on youtube?
  bob2356   ignore (5)   2018 Oct 21, 5:53am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Goran_K says

Guantanamo Bay and water boarding experts disagree.

People who have actually served and have been there and done that like our sec of defense disagree with you and people who are 5 time draft dodgers. What in your long and distinguished military experience leads you to believe torture works? Especially since the wmd intelligence that convinced congress authorize war in Iraq was false information by Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi provided under torture. That worked out well.
  bob2356   ignore (5)   2018 Oct 21, 5:59am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

tatupu70 says

None of those things show he supported terrorism.

It's true because I say it's true. That's the way it works.

Hey two scooops. Still working on the list of people saiddi's killed in their embassies and taleil sent to harvard law for islmic studies. ROFLOL. Your arguments have long since become a joke. MBS stepped on his dick big time and showed the whole world who he really was doing it. Give it up.
  bob2356   ignore (5)   2018 Oct 21, 6:24am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

clambo says

Saudi Arabia is no threat in any way to the USA;

9/11 would seem to disagree with you. The threat is there every single day of the next one. I haven't heard of the new kinder gentler KSA taking any steps (as in actually doing anything not talking about doing something. Form a committee is the oldest do nothing dodge in history) to rein in support of terrorism around the world coming from KSA. The new kinder gentler KSA is actively funding and using Al-Qaida in Yemen as we speak. Which makes the US and Al-Qaida very ironic and unwilling allies in Yemen. I wonder what projects this branch of Al-Qaida will be working on after the Yemen war?

clambo says
Mexico on the other hand is.

Are the mexicans planning to take back texas? I'm pretty sure they don't want it back if it includes ted cruz.
  bob2356   ignore (5)   2018 Oct 21, 6:32am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
Awww, poor 3H Club.

(Houthi, Hamas, and Hezbollah are all Iranian backed terrorist groups).

Terrorist group. Any militia that doesn't do what the US wants done.

Freedom fighters. Any militia that does do what the US wants done.

See how simple it is.
  bob2356   ignore (5)   2018 Oct 21, 6:33am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Strategist says
When I'm with a woman, I tell her what I want to do with her body, and do it. I always get thanked spanked.

You made a typo. I fixed if for you.
  bob2356   ignore (5)   2018 Oct 21, 6:38am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

curious2 says

Your link says, "The study confirms the perception that Muslim women have more children than non-Muslims in Western Europe, but shows that the gap is not as large as many believe." The study compares populations within the Netherlands.

The article talks about a number of countries and factors. Read the words instead of looking at the pictures.
  bob2356   ignore (5)   2018 Oct 21, 7:57am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

curious2 says

In the UK:

How do you always manage to find such nonsense. If, possibly, could, assumes, might, suggests, estimated, concluded, likely, according to, etc. etc. Hint, when you see something the contains those words in every paragraph it's either a bunch of meaningless speculation, sell newspapers sensationalism, or ideological nonsense.

The paper suggests that if migration continues at the same rate but refugee movement stops, the UK will have the highest overall population of Muslims in the EU, at 13m, making up 16.7 per cent of the population.

The report "supposes" migrants from the middle east will continue at a record influx of asylum seekers fleeing conflicts in Syria and other predominantly Muslim countries levels for the next 32 years? . Totally contradictory but interesting.thought. I can see why you like it since you frequently argue contradictory positions. On the same subject. "Overall, an estimated 43 per cent of all migrants to the UK between mid-2010 and mid-2016 were Muslims,". . Pretty odd how they picked those dates. Just happened to be the peak of the syrian war crises. What a totally unexpected coincidence. Sort of like the sun rising in the east.
Top ten countries of origin by country of birth and nationality, UK 2017
1 Poland 922,000 9.8
2 India 829,000 8.8
3 Pakistan 522,000 5.6
4 Ireland 390,000 4.1
5 Romania 390,000 4.1
6 Germany 318,000 3.4
7 Bangladesh 263,000 2.8
8 Italy 232,000 2.5
9 South Africa 228,000 2.4
10 China 216,000 2.3

Very strange how mulsim countries are only 7% of immigrants while 43% of the immigration. Do you suppose researchers at oxford doesn't know how to do math?

The whole thing is just silly. nonsense of patching unrelated bits and cherry picked facts together but it sells newspapers.
  bob2356   ignore (5)   2018 Oct 21, 2:28pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Strategist says

No country is a serious threat to us. Islam is a very serious threat to us, and a very serious threat to the rest of the world. Islam must and will be brought to it's knees.

Still waiting to hear your plan to bring 25% of the world to it's knees.
  bob2356   ignore (5)   2018 Oct 21, 2:32pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Goran_K says
Democrat Senator Sherrod Brown facing allegations of sexual assault in the 1980s

What fucking pussies these democrats are. A real republican man would molest young boys.
  bob2356   ignore (5)   2018 Oct 21, 5:35pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Strategist says
The plan is simple:
Install USA friendly dictators and Kings in power.
Give them arms to go after Islamic countries not friendly to us.
Install friendly dictators in weakened Islamic countries.
Execute radicals, control their education, clamp down on sharia laws.
Fully expose the Muslim world to democracy and western values.
Eliminate madrassas completely.
Islam will be brought to its knees.

How's it working out so far for you so far? Got a list of all those US friendly dictators and kings for us? Maybe you can add it to two scoops lists.
  bob2356   ignore (5)   2018 Oct 22, 10:31am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I'm sure it had nothing at all to do with trump's own actions. No not a thing. If you tell everyone they are assholes then they usually don't have nice things to say. DUH.
  bob2356   ignore (5)   2018 Oct 22, 10:33am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Strategist says
It's working out pretty well since Trump became President. We have lots of Islamic puppets.
Saudi Crown Prince
Jordan King Abdulla

ROFLOL. That's the funniest shit on patnet in years.
  bob2356   ignore (5)   2018 Oct 22, 10:34am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
bob2356 says
How's it working out so far for you so far? Got a list of all those US friendly dictators and kings for us? Maybe you can add it to two scoops lists.

That reminds me, how many investor conferences did the NYT, Economist, WaPo and other Globalist Rags boycott when Erdogan made Turkey the #1 Jailer of Journalists in the World?

What penalties did Obama impose on Turkey?

So you don't have anything. No surprise.
  bob2356   ignore (5)   2018 Oct 22, 10:43am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Today's quiz.

Did KSA give ttrump the rogue elements story to test drive for them or did trump come up with it and KSA couldn't come up with anything better so they ran with it?

But wait, he got his tie caught in the ceiling fan and strangled before anyone could turn it toff.
No wait, he went into the basement and walked into a clothes line and no one heard him calling for help.
No wait, he was doing an after lunch floss that somehow wound around his neck and .choked him to death.
No wait, he was showing the 15 saudi tourists that just happened to fly in that morning with a bone saw how to skip rope and tangled it around his neck.
No wait, he was walking the embassy dog and the leash tangled around his neck.
  bob2356   ignore (5)   2018 Oct 22, 10:49am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
. So I won't answer, until I receive a specific answer.

Sure right, I'm sure some where some one believes that. Maybe. You won't answer because you don't have an answer.
  bob2356   ignore (5)   2018 Oct 22, 10:52am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

But But But the wall the wall.
  bob2356   ignore (5)   2018 Oct 23, 4:59am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says

However, we finally have a Prince running things who is under 40, has removed the power of the Committee for Vice/Virtue to make arrests on multiple issues, got women driving, and attending events without male chaperones.

I notice stopping funding for terrorism isn't on the list. Nor will it ever be; All MBS is doing with his "liberalizations" is trying to delay the fall of the house of saud. With 80% of saudi's under 25, that have a degree in islmaic studies, lacking any quantifications/skills to make a living at all that are totally dependent on oil money welfare to live the oil money drying up day of reckoning is in sight for the royal family. . Like putin brutal internal political repression and playing up external enemies boogeymen is the only option to survive.
  bob2356   ignore (5)   2018 Oct 23, 5:11am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Goran_K says
Nothing would be better than Saudi and Turkey shooting at each other, with a little ISIS and Syria sprinkled on top. It's about time they spent their money killing each other than killing Americans.

Maybe you should look at a map some time. There is the small matter of Iraq and Syria being between them. The saudi's have a handful of DF3 chinese cruise missiles that can't hit the broad side of a continent that could reach turkey, but when they are gone that's it. Neither have enough bomber capacity to do shit even if they could overfly syria and iraq. What would they be shooting?

Then there is the small matter of turkey being a Nato country that the US is treaty bound to defend from attacks.
  bob2356   ignore (5)   2018 Oct 23, 5:20am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says

The good news is that the militant Muslim Princes that financed 9/11 are also MbS' enemies, so he will torture them anyway, and use bonesaws on those responsible while they are still alive.I say let MbS flay their skin with 100 lashes until they pass out, wait for them to regain consciousness and do it again and again for weeks on end until they die. That's much more effective and just than..

and who are these militant princes that financed 9/11 and are mbs's enemies? another non existent list we will never see.
  bob2356   ignore (5)   2018 Oct 23, 5:33am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

richwicks says

First of all, the story makes no sense - murdering him would have been trivial to do undetected.

Murdering a political enemy in another country isn't trivial at all and usually blows up in peoples faces. Which is why it is so rarely attempted. The russians keep stepping on their dicks with this. Countries are very touchy about other countries murdering people inside their borders.
  bob2356   ignore (5)   2018 Oct 23, 5:40am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
MbS is the first Saudi in decades to actually liberalize Saudi Arabian laws. What happens if he is forced to resign? Anybody think his replacement will be another daring liberal? Or a member of the "Safe Old Guard" that wants to return to exporting Wahabi fanatics and restoring the now-reduced powers of the Religious Police?

When did MBS stop exporting wahabi fanatics? ROFLOL.

Tell me about MBS's humanitarian peace mission in yemen. to help his fellow muslims lead a better life. through starvation and being blown apart. Oh right the saudi/US backed militia's spreading death and terrorism are called freedom fighters It's the other militias that are called terrorists. What a total joke.
  bob2356   ignore (5)   2018 Oct 23, 5:47am     ↓ dislike (2)   quote   flag      

WillPowers says
He claimed that they would find MS-13 gang members as well as Middle Eastern citizens trying to enter the United States.

Why doesnt' trump just show us his proof they exist? ROFLOL. Does he know that MS-13 is a US gang that spread to central america, not the other way around?
  bob2356   ignore (5)   2018 Oct 23, 1:46pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Quigley says
bob2356 says
Does he know that MS-13 is a US gang that spread to central america, not the other way around?

What does that matter if it’s made up of all Salvadorans? How are it’s victims any less injured or dead? Dishonest bob strikes again

Nothing dishonest other than your reply. We aren't being invaded by ms-13, they started here and have plenty of us members whether anyone comes from anywhere else or not. Not that it matters. There are 10,000 ms-13 in the US out of the 1.5 million gang members. If trump actually wanted to do something about gang violence other than run his mouth (not very likely) he would start with the big gangs that account for most of the gang crime and violence. Where is your concern about victims the big gangs? Curiously missing.

Super simple problem to fix. Put employers in jail until no one will hire illegals. No jobs no illegals. Why after 18 months hasn't anything been done other than talk, talk,talk? Obama prosecuted more employers than trump.
  bob2356   ignore (5)   2018 Oct 23, 2:02pm     ↓ dislike (2)   quote   flag      

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says

Did you tell us what Sanctions Obama imposed on Saudi Arabia for executing all those gays and witches yet? And why he rewarded Iran for torturing and executing ditto with the Iran Deal?

Please please stop embarrassing yourself with this. When a government arrests someone, has a trial, then executes them it's called a legal system. It may be a bad legal system. It may be a legal system many people disagree with. But it's accepted internationally as a normal function of government. When a country sends 15 goons to another country to kill someone it's called murder. In case you haven't looked at the news in a long time murder is always news worthy no matter where it happens.

This is basic government 101 stuff.

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
You're great at demanding answers, bad at providing any.

I;m not the one that keeps claiming to have non existent lists of names. .You made the claims, you back them up.
  bob2356   ignore (5)   2018 Oct 23, 2:09pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Evan F. says
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I see barely any mention in any of those statements of actually moving production lines or offices back to the US? Just that they're moving out of China.

But but but trump said companies would move production back to the states. Seriously, no one in the entire administration has ever heard of Vietnam manufacturing?
  bob2356   ignore (5)   2018 Oct 24, 5:35am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Malcolm says
Ah, more unreported climate change news. More ice than normal in Greenland.

and the rest of the planet also? The magic words are trend line not this year. What happens in a year or two in a place or two is called weather not climate.

Flora and fauna all over the planet keeps moving toward the poles steadily year after year. Do you suppose that means anything?
  bob2356   ignore (5)   2018 Oct 24, 5:45am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Strategist says

Only this murder is newsworthy. Thousands of murders the world over every single day, and only this one gets the front page news day after day.

Plenty of murders make front page news day after day. The russian poisoning of Litvinenko was front page in the news around the world for weeks without 3 countries and leaders making the story bigger and bigger every day. Do you suppose the press reported russia poisoning Litvinenko on the front page because they were upset with MBS making KSA liberal ? ROFLOL.
  bob2356   ignore (5)   2018 Oct 24, 6:17am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says

So it's okay to torture and execute Gays and Witches, so long as there is a Trial in an Authoritarian Country like SA and Iran. It doesn't merit any pressure or sanctions.

Nice job with that strawman. Keep on making shit up and claiming I said it.. The lengths you go to to create strawmen and misdirection are impressive.

I said It isn't front page news, I made no comment on condoning or condemning. Governments around the world torture and/or kill people all the time for all kinds of reasons under the cloak of their legal systems. Including the USA. Where is your outrage at the USA scooping up people (including innocent people that could have easily been checked out but weren't) then sending them to be tortured or killed in places like egypt and jordan. That was without a trial of any kind. People have been held in Gitmo for 16 years now without a trial. What pressure and sanctions should be put on the USA for doing this? By the standards of many countries this is barbarism. I guess you never heard the one about glass houses and throwing stones.

The lengths you go to find a means to excuse the different standards being applied is pretty embarrassing. I'm blushing on your behalf
  bob2356   ignore (5)   2018 Oct 24, 6:30am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says

So it's okay to torture and execute Gays and Witches, so long as there is a Trial in an Authoritarian Country like SA and Iran

or the USA and UK. You do remember that sodomy was a felony in the USA until the last law was struck down in 1962 don't you?. With it being a capital crime until south carolina being the last state to do away with the death penalty for sodomy in 1873. So yea it was ok to torture and execute gays in the good old USA for a long time. The UK had the same laws (the USA took them from the UK) The last execution for sodomy in the UK took place on 27 November 1835 when James Pratt and John Smith were hanged at Newgate.

The lengths you go to find a means to excuse the different standards being applied is pretty embarrassing. I'm blushing on your behalf
  bob2356   ignore (5)   2018 Oct 24, 6:33am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

and Reagan was an actor who's biggest part was playing a supporting role to a monkey. Who cares?
  bob2356   ignore (5)   2018 Oct 25, 10:15am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

want to post your account and password so everyone else can read the article?
  bob2356   ignore (5)   2018 Oct 25, 10:26am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Strategist says

Yes, it WAS OK in the good old days, until secular beliefs civilized the religious beliefs. Guess that makes it OK for Islamic countries to continue with their barbaric practices in todays world.

So that is 1 vote in favor of the USA torturing and executing gays/witches.. Secular beliefs civilized religious beliefs since the Iraq war where the US shipped people off to be tortured and murdered? Damn want to post some links about that, I missed it in the news. So I take it you approve of this.

Try to follow the conversation. The question is if a country following it's laws for whatever purpose is front page newsworthy or not.

Strategist says

Good thinking, Bob. I hereby nominate you for the Patnet Peace Prize.

Another poster who can't figure out that there was neither approval nor condemnation.
  bob2356   ignore (5)   2018 Oct 25, 10:33am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Strategist says

This Kashoggi guy was not murdered in a foreign country by his government as in the case of Russia. He was murdered on Saudi soil.
An embassy is considered foreign soil.

ROFLOL. You guys are going to amazing lengths to avoid admitting that the fair hair boy MBS fucked up big time and managed to show .the new boss is the same as the old boss. They tried and convicted him right there in the embassy? Damn that is amazing. When did you learn this? Want to post some links to the story, I can't find it.

Still waiting for all the MBS cheerleaders to talk about all the radical madras and mosques MBS has shut down. Or the new restrictions on money going out to terrorists. As in none, zero, zippo.
  bob2356   ignore (5)   2018 Oct 25, 10:36am     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag      

CBOEtrader says
1835 is the same as 2018. Thanks bob

Vote 2 in favor of the US torturing and executing gays/witches. Also in favor of people being shipped off for torture and murder by the US as in the 2000's I assume.
  bob2356   ignore (5)   2018 Oct 26, 7:28am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
bob2356 says
Nice job with that strawman. Keep on making shit up and claiming I said it.. The lengths you go to to create strawmen and misdirection are impressive.

Bob, it's not a strawman, nor is it Whataboutery. It's a direct regurgitation of your own words:

It's okay to execute Gays and Witches - and apparently unmarried Princesses for adultery - if you have a Trial based on Shari'a Law and Islamism. But not Muslim Brotherhood shills who are trying to pick up paperwork to divorce their wife in Saudi Arabia - so they only have to pay 130 days support.

My direct words were it's not front page news when someone is tried and executed according to a nations laws. The rest of the shit you just keep making up. Show one single place where I said anything was "ok" or not "ok" since obviously my statement I'm not offering my opinion on whether I condone or condemn was outside of you comprehension. .

Regurgitate is when you chew a bunch of stuff up, mix it up in your stomach. then throw it up all in a jumbled mess. So you are correct that you regurgitated.

Did you catch KSA's story of the day today? Well we sort of, kind of, may have, maybe planned it. But it was an accident that we planned it. It's like listening to a 5 year old explaining how the lamp got knocked off the table and broken. ROFLOL.
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