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1   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   ignore (41)   2019 Jul 19, 9:20pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Fake News: They're all DEAD!

Exactly like CANADA! which has been depopulated for decades!
2   CBOEtrader   ignore (5)   2019 Jul 20, 2:33am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

It is fake news. Obama good, orange man bad article. Very weak.
3   Misc   ignore (0)   2019 Jul 20, 8:21am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Yes, all the author writes about is the insurance marketplace. That is not where the bulk of the people added to insurance rolls came from. The big increase came from the increased pool of those covered by Medicaid. When the socialists talk about giving everyone healthcare they say it as "Medicare for All". Well, under Medicare the recipient still shares some of the costs. What the socialists really mean is Medicaid for all or Veteran's Administration care for all.

Of course the reason the Oligarchs don't like Obamacare is that because for now it is primarily paid for by an increase of 3.8% on capital gains over a certain amount. It's not really a tax on regular people, so the rich hate it.
4   HEYYOU   ignore (31)   2019 Jul 20, 7:02pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Trumpcare is cheaper & better.
5   Onvacation   ignore (4)   2019 Jul 21, 3:25am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Misc says
It's not really a tax on regular people, .

That's not what the supreme court says.

I recently started a new job and was offered Healthcare options . If I had a young family I would be paying $1700/month for premiums.

In California, an individual plan that cost an average of $196 a month before the health law went into effect now costs an average of $331 a month, according to eHealth, a Mountain View company that is the largest online broker of health insurance in the country.
6   Misc   ignore (0)   2019 Jul 22, 2:08am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

When the Supreme Court ruled on Obamacare it was for the individual mandate being a tax. That has been done away with. I was talking about the 3.8% increase to the capital gains tax (when it is over a certain amount). That tax is applied to a very small percent of the population...the extremely rich. Since there was a massive increase in Medicaid eligibility, I'm glad it is primarily paid for by the rich. This also applies to the subsidies received by those in the insurance marketplace. The extremely rich pay for those too.

Also, I went ahead and ran the numbers. Looks like the $196/mo compared to $331/mo from 2010 to 2019 is about 6% per year. Which is lower than the historic increase in healthcare costs prior to Obamacare being enacted.

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