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1   6rdB   ignore (1)   2019 Feb 25, 11:37am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Since problem can not be rooted in this:

Self-interest in the social-services community may be at fault. As economist William A. Niskanen explained back in 1971, public agencies seek to maximize their budgets, through which they acquire increased power, status, comfort and security. To keep growing its budget, and hence its power, a welfare bureaucracy has an incentive to expand its “customer” base. With 883,000 full-time-equivalent state and local employees in 2014, California has an enormous bureaucracy. Many work in social services, and many would lose their jobs if the typical welfare client were to move off the welfare rolls.

then it must be ORANGEMANBAD, NOTENOUGHTAXES, or TOOMANYGUNS.
2   AD   ignore (0)   2019 Feb 25, 12:23pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

This could be resolved a lot by making affordable housing (i.e., working class apartments, condos, townhomes, etc.) more available.

I read that Governor Newsom is pushing ahead with bring more affordable housing to California.

Housing (i.e., rent or mortgage/taxes/insurance/HOA fee) should not be more than 1/3 of the monthly household net income. If the average working class wage is $15 an hour, then the monthly rent should be about $700. That is why two-income households are required to purchase a home or rent a nice home.
3   HeadSet   ignore (1)   2019 Feb 25, 12:53pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

That is why two-income households are required to purchase a home or rent a nice home.

The economy adjusted to a two income household back in the 70s when women came en mass into the work force.
4   CovfefeButDeadly   ignore (5)   2019 Feb 25, 12:59pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Deport the millions of illegal aliens. That’s a good start.
5   6rdB   ignore (1)   2019 Feb 25, 1:05pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

AD says
I read that Governor Newsom is pushing ahead with bring more affordable housing to California.

That will not solve anything other than generating more bureaucracy and increasing taxes of Clownifornians. How about removing most of zoning restrictions? Houston had very cheap housing before Californians started flocking there (apparently because of wonderful climate).
6   socal2   ignore (0)   2019 Feb 25, 1:08pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

AD says
This could be resolved a lot by making affordable housing (i.e., working class apartments, condos, townhomes, etc.) more available.

I read that Governor Newsom is pushing ahead with bring more affordable housing to California.

Housing (i.e., rent or mortgage/taxes/insurance/HOA fee) should not be more than 1/3 of the monthly household net income. If the average working class wage is $15 an hour, then the monthly rent should be about $700. That is why two-income households are required to purchase a home or rent a nice home.


Do we really want the morons in Sacramento dictating rent levels on private property? Don't think we want MOAR government regulation fucking up markets.
7   RC2006   ignore (1)   2019 Feb 25, 2:11pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

We should try flipping entitlements. Free healthcare, childcare, education, ect give to only the middle class or higher and completely cut off the bottom. This will starve drainers make disincentives to have more kids to the poor, make poor choices let them utterly fail. This will cause smarter harder working people have more kids creating a better future for all and a more robust independent human population. Current system is backwards.
8   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (5)   2019 Feb 25, 2:28pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

socal2 says
Do we really want the morons in Sacramento dictating rent levels on private property? Don't think we want MOAR government regulation fucking up markets.


They do need to eliminate density and housing restrictions, which are anti-Free Market, preventing best use by private landowners and developers in order to inflate the prices for existing homeowners using government Fiat.

P N Dr Lo R says
Why is liberal California the poverty capital of America?


Generous benefits available to everybody, including non-citizens, is also a factor.

Not just Mexicans, but Asians who bring in their elderly relatives then "abandon them" but only on paper so they can get benefits they never paid one day into.
And plenty of White 6 figure earners who declare their mentally disabled adult/teen kids to be wards of the state when they could more than afford special needs home care. It would just take too much time and money away from their Racquetball and Golf Equipment.

Elderly immigrants sponsored by their children, then put on state aid should wear ankle bracelets which should notify State Offices if they go within 500 feet of their children's residences. If discovered there at any time, children owe $50,000 fine and all the social services money back, with a lien on the home.

Actually, that's too much work - all immigrants over 40 should be conditional to the children, if they can no longer support the MUST return the elderly to country of origin within 30 days.
9   Quigley   ignore (0)   2019 Feb 25, 3:09pm   ↑ like (5)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Obviously the reason for widespread poverty in California (despite one of the most robust economies in the USA) is...
...drumroll...
CLIMATE CHANGE!
Teeehee
10   AD   ignore (0)   2019 Feb 25, 3:56pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I was looking at the 2017 data for Medicaid by the Kaiser Family Foundation (KFF).

59% of non-elderly recipients of Medicaid in California are Hispanic.

About 40% of California is Hispanic.

https://www.kff.org/medicaid/state-indicator/distribution-by-raceethnicity-4/?currentTimeframe=0&sortModel=%7B%22colId%22:%22Hispanic%22,%22sort%22:%22desc%22%7D
11   AD   ignore (0)   2019 Feb 25, 4:22pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Also the same KFF.org data shows that 50% of Medicaid non-elderly recipients in Arizona are Hispanic.

That may explain the "demographics is destiny" effect in Arizona as it is becoming a Democrat state.
12   FortWayneIndiana   ignore (4)   2019 Feb 25, 5:04pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

It’s fucking insane how badly liberal policies fuck everyone here over. Boiling frog at this point.
13   AD   ignore (0)   2019 Feb 25, 5:42pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

FortWayneIndiana says
It’s fucking insane how badly liberal policies fuck everyone here over. Boiling frog at this point.


University of Virginia's Larry Sabato calls it "demographics is destiny".

Will California bifurcate between a 3rd world community and a 1st world Tech / Internet community ?
14   cmdrda2leak   ignore (0)   2019 Feb 25, 10:18pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

AD says
This could be resolved a lot by making affordable housing (i.e., working class apartments, condos, townhomes, etc.) more available.

I read that Governor Newsom is pushing ahead with bring more affordable housing to California.

Housing (i.e., rent or mortgage/taxes/insurance/HOA fee) should not be more than 1/3 of the monthly household net income. If the average working class wage is $15 an hour, then the monthly rent should be about $700. That is why two-income households are required to purchase a home or rent a nice home.


Wishing for a thing does not make it so. Rent is what it is because that's what it costs to provide that domicile once you've factored in the cost of originally securing the land, building and maintaining the structure, supplying utilities, paying for community needs such as transportation, fire safety, security, emergency services, education, miscellaneous support services, earmarks, and special interest group handouts. Not to mention the sort of stable environment that the aforementioned create in order to support enough economic opportunities to make the place worth living in to begin with.

All of that is why the land costs what it does, the taxes and leverage are what they are, and in result what the rent is.
15   rocketjoe79   ignore (0)   2019 Feb 25, 10:31pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Pournelle#Pournelle's_iron_law_of_bureaucracy

...in any bureaucratic organization there will be two kinds of people: those who work to further the actual goals of the organization, and those who work for the organization itself. Examples in education would be teachers who work and sacrifice to teach children, vs. union representatives who work to protect any teacher including the most incompetent. The Iron law states that in all cases, the second type of person will always gain control of the organization, and will always write the rules under which the organization functions.

Hence, the reason why the total percentage of administrators in Education has grown from 10% to over 50% since the 50's. Take your kids our of public school now. But make sure to research the schools you put them into: it will determine whether they become a snowflake or a productive citizen.
16   Ceffer   ignore (2)   2019 Feb 25, 11:31pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The poor are there so that we coastal elites can enjoy the sounds of their crunching bones under our Bentleys.

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