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In his mind Trump is the #1

By Tim Aurora following x   2018 Nov 16, 1:49pm 1,950 views   39 comments   watch   nsfw   quote     share    


Trump has this weird spin of being the best in everything

In his interview with Wallace “But I will say this, look, nobody believes in the First Amendment more than I do and if I think somebody is acting out of sorts I will leave. I will say, ‘Thank you very much everybody I appreciate you coming and I’ll leave.”

You can find countless such examples

https://www.care2.com/causes/20-things-trump-says-hes-the-best-at-and-why-hes-wrong.html
1   jazz_music   ignore (12)   2018 Nov 16, 5:11pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

What about Hillary?

Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi

Emails! Emails!

Arghhhhhhh!

I hate Pelosi but I don’t know why!

Arghhhhhhh!
2   jazz_music   ignore (12)   2018 Nov 16, 5:18pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Seriously though the link highlighted some hum-dingers, hilarious, certainly if you’re not a cult member.

If you are then refer back to my first comment above.
3   marcus   ignore (10)   2018 Nov 16, 10:47pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Who were these people that bought Trumps bullshit. seriously, who ?

Who votes for someone who says things like:

“No one has done more for people with disabilities than me.”

"“I have the best temperament or certainly one of the best temperaments of anybody that’s ever run for the office of president. Ever.”

“I am the least racist person you’ve ever encountered.”

“Look, I know more about renewables than any human being on earth.”

“I’m the most successful person ever to run for the presidency, by far. Nobody’s ever been more successful than me.”
4   PaisleyPattern   ignore (1)   2018 Nov 17, 12:43am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

People criticizing Trump should be taking notes instead. He’s a billionaire and the US President. I think he knows exactly what he’s doing.
6   Tim Aurora   ignore (0)   2018 Nov 17, 7:02am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

marcus says
Who were these people that bought Trumps bullshit. seriously, who ?


Conspiracy theorist , who believe anything that is supposed to out of the world

The researchers found that reasons for believing in conspiracy theories can be grouped into three categories:

The desire for understanding and certainty
The desire for control and security
The desire to maintain a positive self-image
Let’s look at each of these motives in turn.

The desire for understanding and certainty. Seeking explanations for events is a natural human desire. We’re constantly asking why things happen the way they do. Why does it have to rain the day I want to go out? Why did she give me the cold shoulder like that? Why can’t you understand what I’m trying to tell you?

And we don’t just ask questions. We also quickly find answers to those questions—not necessarily the true answers, but rather answers that comfort us or that fit into our worldview. It’s raining because I always have the worst luck. She gave me the cold shoulder because she can’t stand it when she doesn’t get her way. You can’t understand what I’m saying because you’re just not listening.

We all harbor false beliefs, that is, things we believe to be true but in fact are not. For example, if you believe Sydney is the capital of Australia, you’re the victim of a false belief. But once you’re confronted with the fact Canberra is the capital of Australia, you’ll readily change your mind. After all, you were simply misinformed, and you’re not emotionally invested in it.

Conspiracy theories are also false beliefs, by definition. But people who believe in them have a vested interest in maintaining them. First, they’ve put some effort into understanding the conspiracy-theory explanation for the event, whether by reading books, going to web sites, or watching TV programs that support their beliefs. Uncertainty is an unpleasant state, and conspiracy theories provide a sense of understanding and certainty that is comforting.

The desire for control and security. People need to feel they’re in control of their lives. For instance, many people feel safer when they’re the driver in the car rather than a passenger. Of course, even the best drivers can get into accidents for reasons beyond their control.

Likewise, conspiracy theories can give their believers a sense of control and security. This is especially true when the alternative account feels threatening. For example, if global temperatures are rising catastrophically due to human activity, then I’ll have to make painful changes to my comfortable lifestyle. But if pundits and politicians assure me that global warming is a hoax, then I can maintain my current way of living. This kind of motivated reasoning is an important component in conspiracy theory beliefs.
7   6rdB   ignore (1)   2018 Nov 17, 7:16am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tim Aurora says
Conspiracy theorist

Dismissing all conspiracy theories is kind of stupid as well. We can remember Gulf of Tonkin incident which was supposed to be a conspiracy theory, Bush NSA recording everyone's phone conversations and denying it, etc.
8   jazz_music   ignore (12)   2018 Nov 17, 7:44am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

marcus says
Who were these people that bought Trumps bullshit. seriously, who ?


I’m not discounting Tim’s comment, but this article is an interesting commentary on your question. So many interesting points are made. Here is just one:

Trump’s xenophobic rhetoric was uniquely combined with a rejection of the business-centric consensus on trade and immigration. Virtually every major Republican, including all of the presidential candidates, had made assurances to cut social spending. Trump stood apart by offering a particular right-wing blend of populism and economic promises once associated with the Democratic Party. His brash rhetoric and willingness to ostracize minorities was part and parcel of his style of populism, which blended demagoguery about perceived outsiders with anger over inequality and lopsided economic policy.

The research paper, however, notes that future Democratic candidates should take heed that economic distress still motivates large swaths of the American electorate.

“Fundamentally, these guys [the Democrats] lost votes because the voters could not tell the difference between the two parties, they lost votes because people wanted relief from imports, they didn’t want globalization,”


https://theintercept.com/2018/10/31/donald-trump-2016-election-economic-distress/
9   jazz_music   ignore (12)   2018 Nov 17, 7:51am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

More from the above link:

The study repeatedly cites political theorist Hannah Arendt’s “alliance between the mob and capital,” the idea that powerful elites exploit widespread economic discontent and channel anger away from economic reform and toward social scapegoats.

Trump harnessed economic distress to blame minorities and immigrants for the nation’s woes. But he was certainly not the only billionaire using this strategy. The Koch brothers and other major donors have long channeled anger about the economy at religious and ethnic minorities. The small set of Super PACs and dark money groups that funded the late-election surge in pro-Trump advertising, along with the media conglomerates that gave Trump promotional coverage worth billions of dollars during the election, also certainly fit the mould of elite influence over the election. The “alliance between mob and capital,” the authors write, may be at the heart of Trump’s election victory.
10   gsr   ignore (0)   2018 Nov 17, 8:02am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

jazz_music says

Trump harnessed economic distress to blame minorities and immigrants for the nation’s woes. But he was certainly not the only billionaire using this strategy


To be precise, Robert Mercer is the one bankrolling Trump.
11   Onvacation   ignore (4)   2018 Nov 17, 8:20am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

marcus says

Who votes for someone who says things like

"They are often connected to big drug cartels, they are not just gangs of kids anymore. They are often the kinds of kids that are called superpredators — no conscience, no empathy. We can talk about why they ended up that way, but first, we have to bring them to heel."

“You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump's supporters into what I call the 'basket of deplorables'. Right?”

"It was a mistake for me to use personal email,"

"We came, we saw, he died."
12   Onvacation   ignore (4)   2018 Nov 17, 8:28am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tim Aurora says
Conspiracy theories are also false beliefs, by definition. But people who believe in them have a vested interest in maintaining them.

Oswald's Magic bullet killed Kennedy
Vietnamese attacked us at Tonkin Gulf.
Three steel framed buildings collapsed from fire on 911.
global warming climate change will melt the poles, flood Florida, and cause the wetbulb death of millions, probably next year.

Just cause you call it conspiracy does not make it real.
13   Fortwaynemobile   ignore (1)   2018 Nov 17, 8:32am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

America is #1 in Trumps mind.

Liberals on the other hand hate America and it’s culture.
14   Tim Aurora   ignore (0)   2018 Nov 17, 8:40am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I am not sure what is your point. Are you saying that

1. We should all consider America as #1 in everything (regardless of stats )
2. Since Trump says America is #1 , he is right about everything
3. Anyone who criticizes America hates America
4. Liberals hate America ( not correct, they merely think that things can be improved) .
5. Al those hate Trump are liberals ( not correct , remember Republican Never Trumpers)
6. We should all love Russia, an arch enemy because Trump likes them ( OK, you did not say that but Trump adores Russia)

Fortwaynemobile says
America is #1 in Trumps mind.

Liberals on the other hand hate America and it’s culture.
15   rdm   ignore (1)   2018 Nov 17, 8:12pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

PaisleyPattern says
He’s a billionaire


I seriously doubt it, but to prove the point tax returns, 10 years worth or so would be helpful. When can we expect them?
16   Tim Aurora   ignore (0)   2018 Nov 18, 5:05am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Onvacation says
Just cause you call it conspiracy does not make it real.


And just because you have theory does not make it real. Most likely it may cause undue harm. Remember Pizzagate. Conspiracy theory is good as long as people realize it is a theory and treat it as such.
17   Tenpoundbass   ignore (14)   2018 Nov 18, 5:57am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Whuddabout Brenda Snipes?
18   Onvacation   ignore (4)   2018 Nov 18, 9:30am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tim Aurora says

And just because you have theory does not make it real.

So true! Do you believe any of the following conspiracy theories?
Onvacation says
Oswald's Magic bullet killed Kennedy
Vietnamese attacked us at Tonkin Gulf.
Three steel framed buildings collapsed from fire on 911.
global warming climate change will melt the poles, flood Florida, and cause the wetbulb death of millions, probably next year.

If so, you might be part of the problem.
19   Onvacation   ignore (4)   2018 Nov 18, 9:32am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Onvacation says

Oswald's Magic bullet killed Kennedy
Vietnamese attacked us at Tonkin Gulf.
Three steel framed buildings collapsed from fire on 911.
global warming climate change will melt the poles, flood Florida, and cause the wetbulb death of millions, probably next year.

I left out Iraq's wmd's.

The government lies and manipulates us so much it is hard to winnow the truth.
21   Tim Aurora   ignore (0)   2018 Nov 18, 2:30pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Onvacation says
I left out Iraq's wmd's.


Iraq was not a conspiracy theory. In fact half the world did not agree with America's assessment ( in fact Obama disagreed with it too)

I am not aware of rest of the theories so I cannot comment on them. .
22   Onvacation   ignore (4)   2018 Nov 18, 3:13pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tim Aurora says

I am not aware of rest of the theories

Really?
Tim Aurora says
I cannot comment on them. .

Then maybe you shouldn't?
23   Onvacation   ignore (4)   2018 Nov 18, 3:15pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tim Aurora says

Iraq was not a conspiracy theory.

It was totally a conspiracy theory designed to perpetuate war and enrich arms dealers. America, dealers of debt and death.
24   PaisleyPattern   ignore (1)   2018 Nov 18, 5:50pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

rdm says
PaisleyPattern says
He’s a billionaire


I seriously doubt it, but to prove the point tax returns, 10 years worth or so would be helpful. When can we expect them?

https://www.investopedia.com/updates/donald-trump-net-worth/

This is a pretty reputable study into this topic. It seems pretty ridiculous to question him on that account.
25   Fortwaynemobile   ignore (1)   2018 Nov 18, 6:02pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I think he gets A+ for economy.
26   rdm   ignore (1)   2018 Nov 18, 7:42pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

PaisleyPattern says
It seems pretty ridiculous to question him on that account.


Well we go from 10 billion to 3.5 billion. BTW the Tax return the 3.5 Billion in the article was based on was IMO released by Trumps people. But most people don't understand when they see the Hotels, Trump Tower, Trump this and that is it is a question of equity, how much does he owe? On and off the books. We really don't know. He has like 500 private LLC's it will take a team of forensic accountants to determine his true net worth. I doubt Trump even knows. But what makes me suspicious is that he plays small ball, that is Trump University and other such endeavors, why? Make a few mil here and there, when you are worth 3.5 Billion? There of course is no doubt that he will lie about his wealth. The last 10 years of tax returns will put the issue to rest.
27   rdm   ignore (1)   2018 Nov 18, 7:49pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Fortwaynemobile says
I think he gets A+ for economy


And deficit reduction? Paying down the debt as he promised? When, not if, the economy goes in the tank will he get the blame? The sugar high from the tax cuts seems to be fizzling at bit. We know he wont take responsibility, he will blame the Dems, the Fed and everyone else. He only takes responsibility for good things, the bad is always another's fault
28   FortWayneIndiana   ignore (4)   2018 Nov 18, 8:14pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

rdm says
Fortwaynemobile says
I think he gets A+ for economy


And deficit reduction? Paying down the debt as he promised? When, not if, the economy goes in the tank will he get the blame? The sugar high from the tax cuts seems to be fizzling at bit. We know he wont take responsibility, he will blame the Dems, the Fed and everyone else. He only takes responsibility for good things, the bad is always another's fault


Economy is going to be well for a long time. Only overspeculation (wall street) or socialist (liberals) crash it. Trump is clearly keeping employment and jobs stable and improving. Opposite of what we had with Obama, who catered to globalists and socialists, by creating only bullshit temp jobs and welfare handouts.
29   PaisleyPattern   ignore (1)   2018 Nov 18, 9:06pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

rdm says
PaisleyPattern says
It seems pretty ridiculous to question him on that account.


Well we go from 10 billion to 3.5 billion. BTW the Tax return the 3.5 Billion in the article was based on was IMO released by Trumps people. But most people don't understand when they see the Hotels, Trump Tower, Trump this and that is it is a question of equity, how much does he owe? On and off the books. We really don't know. He has like 500 private LLC's it will take a team of forensic accountants to determine his true net worth. I doubt Trump even knows. But what makes me suspicious is that he plays small ball, that is Trump University and other such endeavors, why? Make a few mil here and there, when you are worth 3.5 Billion? There of course is no doubt that he will lie about his wealth. The last 10 years of tax returns will put the issue to rest.


What I am challenging is the contention that Trump is an idiot and doesn’t know what he’s doing. Even if he only has $1 billion, that’s still evidence of business success. This thread started out making claims that Trump is delusional, and reckless, or out of control. I wouldn’t doubt that he has distorted the facts of his business background, but he has had enough success to build a large fortune, he controls a lot of property, his brand has a high value, he was successful on TV, and he successfully beat all the Republicans and Democrats and became president. These things didn’t happen by accident. Trump may be deceiving people, but it’s not because he’s delusional, its because he is trying to get his way. And since he has achieved the success he has, one must conclude that he understands how to operate in the world of business, and now in politics and that his techniques are effective.
30   HeadSet   ignore (1)   2018 Nov 19, 6:58am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

he successfully beat all the Republicans and Democrats and became president.

While spending much less money then his heavily bankrolled competition. A nice step toward taking money out of politics.
31   rdm   ignore (1)   2018 Nov 19, 11:03am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

PaisleyPattern says

What I am challenging is the contention that Trump is an idiot and doesn’t know what he’s doing


Trump has some amazing talents, he is a fabulous promoter but IMO he has little business acumen and knowledge which is what people believe he had when they voted for him. This is not uncommon in real estate development. The front man is backed up by others much smarter and more knowledgeable to deal with the nuts and bolts. If you listened to him he pretty much said as much, though certainly not directly. I always hire the very best people, in other words I may be an idiot and blow hart prevaricator that cares only about appearances but my team will provide the bread while I provide the circus. He said it (indirectly) many times. I believe he knows his limitations in business, unfortunately we are seeing he doesnt know or wont acknowledge his limitations as a president of the world's most powerful country. And he has not hired "the very best" he has in some cases hired nearly the worst and in general C level people (there are exceptions but he is steadily getting rid of them).
32   Ceffer   ignore (2)   2018 Nov 19, 11:13am   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Trump wanted to give himself ALL of the Presidential Medals Of Freedom, and sulked for hours when they told him he couldn't.
33   Tim Aurora   ignore (0)   2018 Nov 21, 5:53am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Trump is like a car salesman. He will say anything , lies, insults, cajoling to sell , in this case getting himself elected. Normal people cannot go past his bullshit but the smart ones do. I had a chat with one of my Wall Street buddies and he said Trump tries his bullshit on Wall Street too but his company was smart to reject it.

rdm says
he is a fabulous promoter
34   Tim Aurora   ignore (0)   2018 Nov 21, 11:16am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

jazz_music says
Trump harnessed economic distress to blame minorities and immigrants for the nation’s woes.


Easy to blame minorities.
35   jazz_music   ignore (12)   2018 Nov 21, 1:14pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Bernie Sanders quote:

I happen to strongly believe in civil political discourse. The vast majority of people in Congress who hold views different than mine are not liars. It is critical we have strong, fact-based debates on the important issues facing our country and that we respect people who come to different conclusions. In a democracy people will always have honestly held different points of view.

But the fact is we have a president who has complete disregard for reality and who makes assertions heard by billions of people around the world that have no basis in fact, and that is an international disgrace.

To help your recognition skills:
The truth feels like this, a drink of cool spring water, enough to splash some on yourself. Ahhhhhhh
37   Tim Aurora   ignore (0)   2018 Nov 29, 11:08am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

komputodo says
In your mind, what number are you?


I do not claim to be expert on things that I do not know. Even on the things that I am expert on, I believe there is a lot more I can learn if I keep an open mind. On the things that I am not an expert I read what experts have to say.

I make the decision with the best of my knowledge and then hope it is right but willing to take the blame if it is wrong.
38   Herdingcats   ignore (1)   2018 Dec 5, 7:00am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

marcus says
Who were these people that bought Trumps bullshit. seriously, who ?


Apparently dumb fuck Republicans.
39   6rdB   ignore (1)   2018 Dec 5, 11:39am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Herdingcats says
Who were these people that bought Trumps bullshit. seriously, who ?


Apparently dumb fuck Republicans.

"Basket of Deplorables"
"Fucking White Males"
etc

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