Cop fired for FAILING to kill a suicidal man
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Cop fired for FAILING to kill a suicidal man

By Patrick following x   2018 Feb 12, 6:03pm 224 views   18 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5382357/West-Virginia-xop-wins-wrongful-termination-lawsuit.html
Mader said his Marine Corps and police officer training taught him to assess a threat level. He said Williams was visibly upset but not aggressive or violent.

He said instead of shooting Williams he tried using his calm voice, urging the 23-year-old, of Pittsburgh, to put the weapon down while standing behind the man's car.

'I told him: "Put down the gun" and he's like, "Just shoot me". And I told him: "I'm not going to shoot you brother",' Mader told WPXI.

During the incident, Mader (pictured) said he saw that Williams had a gun 'but it was not pointed' at him and that he used what he learned in the Marines and the police academy to assess the situation

Mader said Williams started flicking his wrist to try and get a reaction - but still he didn't shoot.

'I thought I was going to be able to talk to him and de-escalate it. I knew it was a suicide-by-cop situation,' he said.

Two other Weirton officers then arrived on the scene. When Williams walked towards them and brandished his weapon, one cop fatally shot him.

Investigators later found Williams's gun to be unloaded. Mader was fired shortly after the incident.
1   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   ignore (26)   2018 Feb 12, 6:06pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Patrick says
what he learned in the Marines and the police academy


Hard to believe that is still taught in the academy but that should be enough to get the union involved.
2   Strategist   ignore (1)   2018 Feb 12, 6:59pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Very sad turn of events. No winners here. Also adds more complications as to when the police should shoot, and when they should not.
Ofcourse, some psychics here would say....Police should not shoot if the other guy's gun is not loaded.
I think more leeway should be given to the police to make that last second judgement. It's their life after all.
3   TwoScoopsPlissken   ignore (0)   2018 Feb 12, 7:10pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Patrick says

'I thought I was going to be able to talk to him and de-escalate it. I knew it was a suicide-by-cop situation,' he said.

Two other Weirton officers then arrived on the scene. When Williams walked towards them and brandished his weapon, one cop fatally shot him.

Investigators later found Williams's gun to be unloaded. Mader was fired shortly after the incident.



Disgusting. Man is a hero.
4   justme   ignore (0)   2018 Feb 12, 7:12pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Indeed, Officer Mader is a hero. A truly brave man.
5   Sniper   ignore (10)   2018 Feb 12, 7:20pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Strategist says
Ofcourse, some psychics here would say....Police should not shoot if the other guy's gun is not loaded.


Yes, we have some awesome Monday morning quarterbacks here.

Patrick says
He said instead of shooting Williams he tried using his calm voice,
'I told him: "Put down the gun" and he's like, "Just shoot me". And I told him: "I'm not going to shoot you brother",' Mader told WPXI.


Question I have, if the cop had all this time to talk to him, why didn't he just Taser him. That would have a neutralizing effect.

I went to the link of the OP, here's a picture of the cop and his dog:





Anyone who has a dog like that is Number One in my book (can you tell I'm impartial( to the dog))?
7   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Feb 12, 7:22pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

justme says
Indeed, Officer Mader is a hero. A truly brave man.


Yes, he couldn't be sure the guy's gun was unloaded, and yet was risking his life.

Far from getting fired, he should have been commended for going above and beyond the call of duty.
8   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Feb 12, 7:23pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Funny we have to look at European news for this btw.
9   anon_d6cec   ignore (0)   2018 Feb 12, 7:23pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says
Patrick says
what he learned in the Marines and the police academy


Hard to believe that is still taught in the academy but that should be enough to get the union involved.


Lol
11   Quigley   ignore (0)   2018 Feb 12, 7:24pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

If you’re a cop and you’re not MURDERING THE PUBLIC, you’re part of the problem!
12   Ceffer   ignore (1)   2018 Feb 12, 7:31pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

This cop needs a shrink. He was attempting Suicide by Perp.
13   Sniper   ignore (10)   2018 Feb 12, 7:36pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

Patrick says
Funny we have to look at European news for this btw.


I was thinking the same thing. Here is one comment at the article link. This might sum it up.

America doesn't have good cops,because it doesn't WANT good cops.
14   BlueSardine   ignore (1)   2018 Feb 12, 8:08pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Shit. You mean Dan was right all along???

Patrick says
Cop fired for FAILING to kill a suicidal man
15   NuttBoxer   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 13, 11:57am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

Strategist says
It's their life after all.


Which as public servants they have waved in favor of citizens lives first. But not too many cops like Mader who understand that.
16   NuttBoxer   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 13, 12:01pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

justme says
Indeed, Officer Mader is a hero. A truly brave man.


Actually, he's just a good cop, doing his job, in the context of the stop. In the context of his decision NOT to shoot and give into the police state, he's a hero.
17   Tenpoundbass   ignore (6)   2018 Feb 13, 12:47pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)     quote      

The Cop was fired because Liberal arts majors can get almost any job now.
18   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   ignore (26)   2018 Feb 13, 1:47pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)     quote      

A real cop would have tortured the guy to death with a taser and taken a long BALLANTINE! ALE! piss on his dead blue face, exactly as the Founding Fathers commanded.

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