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Trump Proposal To End Food Stamps Sends Liquor and Gambling Stocks Tumbling

By willywonka following x   2018 Feb 12, 4:37pm 1,054 views   30 comments   watch   sfw   quote     share    


Trump Budget Would Swap Food Stamps for ‘100% American’ Food Packages

In what would be one of the biggest shakeups of the U.S. food-stamp program in its five-decade history, President Donald Trump is proposing to slash cash payments and substitute them with "100 percent American grown food" given to recipients.

The changes, outlined Monday in Trump’s budget proposal, would reshape the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP, which supports roughly one in eight Americans, by reducing cash spending by about one-third from current levels.

The plan is part of an effort to reform SNAP and save a projected $214 billion over a decade. It would give all households receiving more than $90 a month in cash a food-aid package that would "include items such as shelf-stable milk, ready to eat cereals, pasta, peanut butter, beans and canned fruit, vegetables, and meat, poultry or fish," according to the proposal.

Shares of Dollar Tree Inc. and Dollar General Corp. both dropped on Monday after the plan was unveiled.

The so-called USDA America’s Harvest Box "is a bold, innovative approach to providing nutritious food to people who need assistance feeding themselves and their families -- and all of it is home grown by American farmers and producers," Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue said in a statement. The program would provide food-stamp recipients with "the same level of food value" as the current system, Perdue added.

Reaction was muted on Capitol Hill, where both congressional agriculture committees are working on reauthorizations of the food stamp program as part of a farm law that expires Sept. 30.

"The task at hand is to produce a Farm Bill for the benefit of our farmers, ranchers, consumers and other stakeholders," House Agriculture Committee Chairman Michael Conaway of Texas and Senate Agriculture Committee Chairman Pat Roberts of Kansas, both Republicans, said in a joint statement. "This budget, as with every other president’s budget before, will not prevent us from doing that job."

The food stamp program served 42.2 million people and 20.9 million households on average during the 2017 fiscal year. The average household benefit was $254.14, thus 81 percent of homes receiving aid would be included in the initiative, according to the USDA. SNAP assistance cost $68.1 billion in 2017, with $63.7 billion given out as benefits.

Under the plan, the amount of food a household receives would be scaled to the size of the allotment, with about half of the assistance coming as food instead of cash. The USDA already buys commodities for other programs, such as the National School Lunch Program, and states would largely be in charge of distribution, the department said.

"States can distribute these boxes through existing infrastructure, partnerships, and/or directly to residences through commercial and/or retail delivery services," the department said in a statement.

The USDA also touted tightened eligibility rules for recipients, such as stricter work requirements, as well as changing income and benefits calculations "to ensure benefits are targeted to the neediest households."

Major agricultural and food lobby groups refrained from comment, while one anti-hunger group was alarmed at the proposal.

The plan would replace a system that’s working "with a Rube-Goldberg designed system of commodity distribution via food boxes that will be administratively costly, inefficient, stigmatizing, and prone to failure," Jim Weill, president of the Washington-based Food Research & Action Center, said in a statement.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-02-12/trump-budget-swaps-food-stamps-for-100-percent-american-food?cmpid=BBD021218_BIZ&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&utm_term=180212&utm_campaign=bloombergdaily
1   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   ignore (30)   2018 Feb 12, 4:39pm   ↑ like (5)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Just give those mooching cunts bags of shit - it was food once.
2   Strategist   ignore (1)   2018 Feb 12, 4:46pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

anon_fd7ee says
This is so cool. I can hardly wait to use my food stamps on some good beer.


Damn, not again.
3   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   ignore (30)   2018 Feb 12, 5:13pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Just poison the cheese and the mooching scum will be gone in a few weeks.

WIN! WIN!
4   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   ignore (30)   2018 Feb 12, 5:23pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Or have Free Cheese snipers waiting for the mooching scum when they come to pick up the packages.

Eliminate hunger and provide GOOD! JOBS! for VETERANS!
5   Strategist   ignore (1)   2018 Feb 12, 5:27pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says
Just give those mooching cunts bags of shit - it was food once.


Recycling is good for the planet.
6   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Feb 12, 6:00pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

willywonka says


This is so cool. I can hardly wait to use my food stamps on some good beer.
7   Ceffer   ignore (1)   2018 Feb 12, 7:28pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

Include a pack of cigarettes, a bottle of hooch, some heroin rations with every food box, they'll all be on board with a vengeance.
8   Patrick   ignore (0)   2018 Feb 12, 8:12pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Years ago, my grandmother used to get a three or five pound block of "government cheese" regularly because she was poor. She couldn't eat that much cheese and would give a lot of it to us. Was pretty good! Cheddar I think.

And it came from from a program where the government was buying cheese to support the dairy industry. Holy shit, that program still exists:

http://money.cnn.com/2016/08/23/pf/government-cheese-surplus/index.html

Maybe it cuts a little into the retail sales of cheese, but the dairy farmers are happy with it.

We were on foodstamps ourselves when I was little, but I didn't know it at the time. Four of us kids, and dad was working and going to college at the same time. We got out of it when he graduated and got a better job, but food stamps helped us. Not sure it helped more than a whopping block of cheese though. Trillions of calories in that.
10   WookieMan   ignore (0)   2018 Feb 12, 8:52pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Patrick says
but the dairy farmers are happy with it.


Not a popular opinion, but fuck farmers. They are one of the most subsidized groups of people in the world. Yes, world. I live in a ruralish area and know many. They are lazy fucks and really are not good people. Some of the non-farmer women that have married into those situations are decent people, but they get corrupted pretty quick. Luck of the draw has a very strange way of corrupting the hell out of people is all I'll say.
11   TwoScoopsOfDragonEnergy   ignore (1)   2018 Feb 12, 10:55pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

willywonka says
USDA America’s Harvest Box


I thought Bohos LOVED those boxes of farm food delivered regularly.

Oh, once it goes to Shaniqua it's not as progressive and cool and shit.

Would be funny if the box had onions, a turnip, a few potatoes, some milled grains.

"WTF I do with dis shit?! It's Ray Cyst, too."
(Holds up Turnip)
"This be Okra and shit. Where my Cheetohs, huh?"
12   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Feb 13, 7:13am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Wow--how could anyone call you racist. The nerve.
13   CBOEtrader   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 13, 7:23am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

Patrick says
grandmother used to get a three or five pound block of "government cheese"


My great grand parents on the Oglala reservation in South Dakota received those bricks of cheese. I also remember enormous cans of spam-like meat. They would combine the two on white bread and make "sandwiches". Not exactly fine dining, but the calories (and salt) are there.

Obesity was an enormous problem on the reservation.
14   PrivilegedtobeWhite   ignore (1)   2018 Feb 13, 8:15am   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

Another great idea by Trump. Cut the cash and give them food.
15   Sniper   ignore (11)   2018 Feb 13, 8:42am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

just any guy says
Another great idea by Trump. Cut the cash and give them food.


Not only that, but they should also need to do some community service to get those benefits.

They should start new programs, if you want to be on the government "cheese" (for any program), there should be some sort of work program or community service requirement attached to it.
16   P N Dr Lo R   ignore (0)   2018 Feb 13, 8:56am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Patrick says
We were on foodstamps ourselves when I was little, but I didn't know it at the time. Four of us kids, and dad was working and going to college at the same time. We got out of it when he graduated and got a better job
What a concept!
17   bob2356   ignore (1)   2018 Feb 13, 12:59pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

willywonka says


Shares of Dollar Tree Inc. and Dollar General Corp. both dropped on Monday after the plan was unveiled.


Don't let facts confuse you. Dollar Tree and Dollar General stocks went down almost nothing on monday, much less than the swings the week before. This is just bullshit.

willywonka says
Trump Proposal To End Food Stamps Sends Liquor and Gambling Stocks Tumbling



BTW, when did they start selling liquor and running casino operations? Can you link to that?
18   rocketjoe79   ignore (0)   2018 Feb 13, 1:18pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

How is this working in Australia? They have spending cards issued to low income folks that can't be used on "sin" items like booze and lotto.
19   Onvacation   ignore (2)   2018 Feb 13, 1:20pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Why not soup kitchens?
20   TwoScoopsOfDragonEnergy   ignore (1)   2018 Feb 13, 1:23pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Unwed Mother's Homes folks, Unwed Mother's Homes, and that's a good chunk of it
21   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   ignore (30)   2018 Feb 13, 1:44pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

What's wrong with snipers?

Bullets are cheap and recommended by the 2nd Amendment.
23   TwoScoopsOfDragonEnergy   ignore (1)   2018 Feb 13, 3:18pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

Liberals: "They're fat because they can only spend SNAP on chips and soda because convenience stores are the only thing around. They live in a FOOD DESERT with no heathy options! It's Ray Cyst!"
*Gives Harvest Box*
Liberals: "They're going to starve if they have to cook healthy food from scratch in lieu of using SNAP! They don't HAVE THE KNOW HOW to prep healthy food! It's Ray Cyst"

If LaWanda can figure out how to upload her meaty ass on Tindr, she can look up a recipe for Turnips.
24   TwoScoopsOfDragonEnergy   ignore (1)   2018 Feb 13, 3:24pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

20 cents of each dollar was spent on a broad category of junk foods that included “sweetened beverages, desserts, salty snacks, candy and sugar.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/13/well/eat/food-stamp-snap-soda.html
25   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Feb 13, 3:32pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

TwoScoopsPlissken says
can figure out how to upload her meaty ass on Tindr


Ha ha

you certainly have a way with words!
26   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Feb 13, 4:27pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

anon_49c66 says
TwoScoopsPlissken says
can figure out how to upload her meaty ass on Tindr


Ha ha

you certainly have a way with words!


LaWanda sounds like a real nigger name

As if the dumb white trash that make up the Republicans base who don’t have jobs because they’re worthless uneducated losers aren’t all on food stamps
27   willywonka   ignore (0)   2018 Feb 13, 4:47pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

Food Stamp Demographics
White 40.2%
Black 25.7%
Spanish Indian 10.3%
Asian 2.1%
Non-Spanish Indian 1.2%
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/28/food-stamp-demographics_n_6771938.html

US Demographics
White 61.3%
Black 13.3%
Spanish Indian 17.8%
Asian 6.0%
Non-Spanish Indian 0.8%
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_ethnicity_in_the_United_States#Racial_makeup_of_the_U.S._population

Clearly black Americans receive food stamps disproportionately to their representation in the population.
28   anonymous   ignore (null)   2018 Feb 13, 4:53pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

Clearly black Americans receive food stamps disproportionately to their representation in the population.

60% more whites than blacks tho

So why always insist it’s LaWanda when it’s much more probable to be Jenny or Alyssa?

Maybe it’s pure ignorance? The majority of dopers who are the demand that creates the Opioid epidemic and heroin trade are White Trash Republicans...Facts don’t go over well with Christians/Republicans. Pathetically sad
29   Ceffer   ignore (1)   2018 Feb 13, 5:43pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote        

I almost collected food stamps in the day. I was poor student, and another guy in the rooming house was getting them. I was too embarrassed to go through the process.
30   willywonka   ignore (0)   2018 Feb 13, 5:45pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote        

errc says
60% more whites than blacks tho


Food stamp use/population
White: 0.65
Black: 1.92
Spanish Indian: 0.57
Asian: 0.35
Non-Spanish Indian: 1.5

Blacks are worse than American Indians.




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